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Offline robby

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tyre wear advice
« on: February 23, 2010, 19:02:53 »
hi all
a bit of advice please just noticed today that my rear tyre(trailwing)is just about bald about one and half inch strip all the way round the centre of the tyre.It's done just over 10,000miles.
Is this normal wear and mileage and should I change it straight away?
thanks kev

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Re: tyre wear advice
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2010, 19:32:33 »
Bin it, ASAP, Bry   :thumb:
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Re: tyre wear advice
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2010, 19:55:04 »
aslo what's the ratio of front tyre replacement compared to the rear?is it best to just change them together or wait till they independently wear down?

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Re: tyre wear advice
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2010, 20:50:55 »
Now that is a good question ! I get approximately 1 1/2 rears to a front using Avon Distanzia's, depending how hard we've been hitting the Autoroute's etc. The wear varies so much with style & type of riding it's hard to say. If the front is starting to look worn or is wearing unevenly fit a pair of tyre's and be amazed at how much better your bike is !
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Re: tyre wear advice
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2010, 20:52:59 »
cheers bry

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Re: tyre wear advice
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2010, 20:53:47 »
My advice would be to change them both as soon as possible (if not sooner). Trailwings don't have the best reputation -particually when worn.  Mine have done 5000 miles & are only half worn but I'm thinking of changing them already!
Fronts usually last a bit longer than rears but I'd change both & put on something different (eg. better). I'm going to have Bridgestone BT020's when I change mine. Had them on my last bike (SV650) & loved them. :thumb:

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Re: tyre wear advice
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2010, 21:05:40 »
sorry if this is a silly question sven why do you think bt020's better then trailwings?

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Re: tyre wear advice
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2010, 21:29:29 »
I don't feel confident on the Trailwings (particually in the wet). When in Scotland last year in the rain, I had no confidence in the front - felt like it wanted to let go every corner & I had no idea where the limit was. Also when lane changing & crossing wet white lines :shock:
 On the SV650 I had Metzler MEZ4 originally & changed to the BT020's. The bike felt loads better in the dry & wet and gave me a lot more confidence. So I'm hoping a change on the Vstrom will do the same.
Tyres are very subjective & 6 different riders will probably recommend 6 different tyres. I haven't heard too many people say positive things about the Trailwings but I have heard (or read) quite a few bad reports about them (I'm sure some people will disagree now!!!)
Any reason why you want to stick with them?

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Re: tyre wear advice
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2010, 21:55:00 »
I'm not bothered about sticking with the trail wings one way or the other and after reading all the posts on here about tyres I agree with you every rider has there favourite and these vary quite a lot but I've noticed the bt020s seem popular and I think I'm going to try them.
I don't know if its my style of riding or ignorance but I like to make good progress when its safe to do so but I can't say the trailwings have ever slipped/slid/lost grip at all!!I'm thinking how will the bt020's feel any different if the trailwings have never lost grip? thoughts please....

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Re: tyre wear advice
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2010, 21:58:56 »
As some have said tyre choices are very subjective and one only has to have a bad experience on a particular tyre to put you off that make completely. I've been riding since Jap bike first arrived in the UK and their tyres were regarded (quite rightly as it happened) as fitted to protect the rims and should be replaced ASAP. Thankfully those days have long gone, but I've never liked Bridgestone tyres on my bikes. Had BT020s on an RF900, BT56s on a Triumph and BT92s (Ithink?) on a Honda NC30 and didn't much like any of them.  That was until I bought the 'strom fitted with Battlewings and was so impressed even when worn to the point of being illegal, that I bought them again. I've run them right off the sidewalls and had the back end power sliding out of roundabouts in the dry- bit silly really!. I've never had any moments in the wet either which is one area which really shows up good and bad tyres. The rear lasted about 5,000 miles and the front about 8,000. This was remarkable as nearly all the bikes I've had in the last 15 years seem to go through rears in under 2,000 and fronts in under 3,000. I've done several trips into southern France and Spain and worn out a set of tyres inside a week- very expensive holidays! The 'strom from this point of view has been a revelation. So at the end of the day you either stick with what you know, like and feel confident with or take the plunge and try something new and see what happens.......

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Re: tyre wear advice
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2010, 22:05:01 »
I haven't had (too many) problems with Trailwings in the dry, mostly in the wet. A lot about riding a bike, is about feeling right & having confidence. BT020's just felt good to me so I'm going to try them again. But different riding styles maybe suit different tyres.
But if it feels good....... :thumb:

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Re: tyre wear advice
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2010, 22:06:38 »
I've heard/read the Battlewings are much better than Trailwings...

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Re: tyre wear advice
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2010, 22:12:02 »
As I understand it the Traiwings are a dual purpose tyre I.e. on and off road, whereas the Battlewings are for road use only. Just to confuse everybody even more (including me!) I also understand that the Battlewing is based upon upon the BT020 carcass and just uses a different tread pattern...

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Re: tyre wear advice
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2010, 22:13:03 »
hookie thanks for your words of experience,very interesting.
sven I'm going with your recommendation and don't worry I won't blame you if I don't like them  :grin: but I'm guessing I won't feel any difference but I'll never know if I don't try!

thanks for all your replies blokes I'm going to my local bike shops for prices tomorrow from what I can make out two tyre for around the 180 mark!

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Re: tyre wear advice
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2010, 22:14:52 »
how can buying a bloody rubber ring all of a sudden become so technical  :grin:

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Re: tyre wear advice
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2010, 22:18:38 »
Quote from: "robby"
how can buying a bloody rubber ring all of a sudden become so technical  :grin:

Its not -if you only want it for in the swimming pool lol

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Re: tyre wear advice
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2010, 22:19:39 »
Bit like women with their handbags and shoes really?

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Re: tyre wear advice
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2010, 16:44:01 »
I've ordered a pair of 020's and shoud get them fitted friday the cheapest I could get them was £207!!

I also checked my local Suzuki dealer for prices and the tyres were about the same but get this if I took my bike in and not just my wheels they wanted £25 a wheel for fitting.I said to the young kid that's pricey in fact its twice as much as another local bike shop and he said "ah but they haven't got the Suzuki torque settings" lol. I said I'm sure they will and if not I'll give em them... goodbye.

It's the first time I've had my wheels off my bike is there anything I should be greasing/oiling whilst I have them off?

cheers kev

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Re: tyre wear advice
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2010, 18:07:28 »
While the rear is out it's a good chance to give that area a really thorough clean out. I'm a bit potty trained and I'd grease the suspension linkages since they're handy, but that's just me, ahem. The spindle would benefit from a small amount of grease and the adjusters wouldn't hurt (I grease everything that moves that isn't a brake or tyre...). best of luck with the new treads and keep us posted, Bry   :thumb:
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Re: tyre wear advice
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2010, 20:12:51 »
Kev
Let us know how you get on with new tyres - although not the best time of year/weather to try them much.
& probably goes without saying, but do take it steady for the first couple of hundred miles til they're scrubbed in!
Sven