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Offline dsb79

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So what do you wear?
« on: October 10, 2011, 20:37:43 »
I'm new to biking so building up my kit as  I go.  I currently have a decent leather jacket from City of Leather, I do love it its comfy and quite warm with a fair bit of padding and some chepo textile trousers.  I am looking at getting some Frank Thomas leathers I think its the titanium stuff.  Will I look like a plank on my Wee XP with leathers, or are textiles the way ahead?

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Re: So what do you wear?
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2011, 20:47:10 »
I do wear Textiles on my Wee , I've got these http://spadaclothing.co.uk/productdetai ... 2&subcat=8 , good for the money and been 100% waterproof , guarantee for 2 yrs . I wear leathers on my KTM ..

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Re: So what do you wear?
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2011, 20:48:08 »
I wear leathers and don't care what I look like.. But looking for a textile suit for the winter. Also got kevlar jeans for really hot days with a summer mesh jacket.
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Re: So what do you wear?
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2011, 20:50:24 »
I don't think there is a right or wrong thing to wear - leathers are fine if that you prefer.

I initially (10 years ago) bought leathers since I wanted the maximum protection.

After a while I wanted something more comfortable, waterproof and with a removable lining to allow me to adjust temperature.  I therefore bought a waterproof jacket which I wore with leather trousers.

My leathers are a bit tight now (alas) and I got fed up pulling waterproof trousers on and off in warm changeable conditions (e.g. Summer touring) so recently bought goretex trousers.

I also have a pair of dragging jeans which are great for going into town etc.

Buying again I would not personally bother with leathers unless going on a track.  If I did buy leather trousers I would go for a bit less protection and a bit more comfort.  I would also buy decent kit slowly rather than cheap gear you need to replace ( e.g. I have two sets of cheap, not very waterproof boots instead of 1 pair of properly waterproof ones).

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Re: So what do you wear?
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2011, 20:53:18 »
You can wear what you want, and what you feel gives you the protection you're happy with.

But, leather suits seem to be very limited on the temperature / weather they are comfortable in. IMHO textile is much more adaptable for the usual UK weather, and as for overseas and 30 deg C ....

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Re: So what do you wear?
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2011, 21:00:09 »
Had one of these when I was 16 , given to me by my grandad , can't believe the cost of them now !
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Re: So what do you wear?
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2011, 21:08:20 »
Quote from: "Locksmith"
Had one of these when I was 16 , given to me by my grandad , can't believe the cost of them now !
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002DZ9N2G/r ... nkCode=asn

When I get my dads Honda CD Benly 200 ill be wearing a wax jacket or a classic triumph but not before.

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Re: So what do you wear?
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2011, 21:08:53 »
1 x Leather Jacket for Sunny Summer day- used twice a year!

1x lined and armoured Textile jacket and trousers- Baffalo - fairly cheap but keeps me dry and warm in winter.

1x non-lined armoured textile jacket and the same Buffalo trousers I use for winter use but without the lining.

if I'm poping into town and it's piddleing down but doing a bit of walking around I will just chuck on the textile jacket, a pair of jeans and your basic £10 waterproof trousers  :shy:

I've bought cheap before and the amount of times I've arrived at work looking like I've wee'd myself! you don't have to spend stupid money (£1000 for one of those fancy one-piece does it all touring suits) but spend a little and ask on here if anyone has tried specific items your thinking about. we're a really diverse bunch and you have a good chance one of us have tried what your looking at getting.

if I end up transferring work locations soon I'll be looking at the Akito Desert 2 Piece set. Think Juvecu was using the same a while back. When I did my licence last spring the instructors were using them in the pouring rain (they looked used daily for a while) and got changed to show us they were bore dry when every inch of me was soaked. and look quite funky too!



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Re: So what do you wear?
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2011, 21:32:24 »
love the jeans Carlos but wow at the ££££, I'm a fair weather rider and only on the sunny days, I also have an all in one H-G over suit for the just in case moments.  Think ill get a textile suit when I plan to tour Europe next year.

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Re: So what do you wear?
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2011, 22:04:15 »
Also loving the look of the Akito Desert.  AHH so confused, been offered the Frank Thomas stuff for £120 and its brand spanking new.

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Re: So what do you wear?
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2011, 22:49:17 »
Surely someone should mention hi-viz......  :neen:

+1 for the Akito stuff. Very warm in winter, thermal & windproof liners zip out. I think mine need re-waterproofing, as I'm getting a wet crotch lately, and it's definitely coming from the outside. Without hijacking the thread, has anyone tried the wash-in Nikwax reproofer?

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Re: So what do you wear?
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2011, 22:51:39 »
My first suit used all year around was the previous version of the Akito Desert stuff. They were really comfy and had a lot of pockets, good Knox CE armour for the knees, elbows, shoulders and I added a back protector to the pouch that was already there for it. It have good vents and worked well in the summer and had 2 internal liners, one was for water and one was thermal. The thermal one fixes to the water one and the water one fixes to the outer textiles. This caused trouble, the textiles would get wet, the water would be kept out by the water membrane up to a point and then it will seep through. Your cuffs were always wet when it rained and so was your groin. The design was ultimately flawed if you wanted to use it in moderate to heavy rain or in light rain for longer periods of time (an hour and things would start getting damp.) The older it got the worse the leaking got, but they lasted me more than a year of heavy use. I still have them and they are kept with the inners taken out, if the sun is out and I'm going for a quick spin I use them instead of going through the hassle of taking the inners out of my usual gear. I was planning some off road riding in South Africa (which didn't realise in the end) and I was going to take them instead of my usual gear. They are perfect for everyday use if you're not going to ride in heavy rain or in the dead of winter. They are not good enough for riding with in winter, at least not at motorway speeds, you'll get away going 60 mph on back roads where the wind don't cut through you so much. I had to eventually get a rain over suit to use with them, but it's such a hassle to put the rain over suit on or to take it off that I eventually decided to buy new gear. I had a quick look at the newer Akito Desert gear and I think it will be the same story even though it does look better than the previous version. They still use the 3 layer system (thermal inner, water inner & textile outer.) I wouldn't think twice about buying it for doing some good weather trails riding, but it doesn't cut it for rain and very cold weather. This is just my opinion, formed over 25K+ miles I might add :)

I now have the RST Paragon II textile jacket and trousers. They are much more quality feeling (but aren't really better) than the Akito stuff and more purpose made for colder weather. They have less pockets on the outside, but there are two internal pockets which are handy. The textile outer is waterproof (or I should say "was waterproof") and it has a thermal inner which zips in. It also has proper Knox CE armour for the knees, elbows, shoulders and back included with pockets to fit hip protection (something I think is worth it after getting my hip hit hard on both my bigger offs.) It has a zip on storm collar that makes all the difference in windy, rainy and cold weather. The vents only really work a little bit if you take the thermal inner out, so it can get hot in summer, but once you get on the move you're fine. Both my front jacket pockets have the liner torn and I have to comment that the velcro that holds them close is a shit system compared to the nice poppers on the Akito stuff. The RST front pockets are claimed to be waterproof, but they leak. They got me through last year's cold weather and I have had an off with them which they protected me well (I high sided at about 40mph and got up and continued to riding a Stromtrekker weekend after it, albeit with very bruised shoulder muscles.) It only leaks a bit at the front, but I think this wouldn't be the case if the Strom didn't channel every drop of water towards your navel/crotch area. I think I might just get a rain jacket to go over it for this winter. The zips on the legs have caught on the liner below them and shredded it over time, I think this is the trade off of using finer zips: lets less water in, but are more fiddly. I'd buy the RST stuff again if they fixed the stupid pockets and maybe add one on each leg, other than that they are fine.

I'd buy something different next time around (which would probably be next year somewhere around Stromtrekkers III.) Having had the Akito and RST textiles I know better what I want. For starters, if I can buy something with Gore-Tex next time I will probably go that way. Having clothing that is properly waterproof in the heaviest rain is at the top of my list. Following very closely is how warm it is in the coldest months and then protection, comfort and practicality (more pockets!) If you're not sure what you want, go for the cheap stuff first and you'll quickly learn what you need. Most people who say to buy expensive not to buy again have already had a few sets of cheap stuff to know which expensive stuff they want. On the leather vs textiles debate: it's textiles all the way for me. Putting on that damn rain oversuit just isn't something I want and I can't imagine trying to dry out leathers is any fun. I always wonder if a leather race suit isn't going to feel weird on a bike like the Strom, after all, it's made to sit in a crouch on a crotch rocket :shrug: I'd get leathers if I use a bike on track as I feel they provide better protection in higher speed scenarios.
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Re: So what do you wear?
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2011, 08:29:16 »
Gore tex all the way. Every other 'version' of the same technology never seems to work as well as the real stuff.

I'm currently using:
HG Explorer jacket which I think is great, lots of zips for the odd day when it's really hot
HG Journey (not journey 2) trousers
HG Ralleye GTX II boots (yes, there is a HG shop close to work),
Alpinestars Storm Rider GTX gloves - used all year round although they need assistance when it gets cold

I have an ex-police motorcycle jacket that I wear over the top when it's really grotty or cold, cost me less than 30 quid from ebay iirc. Helps keep my jacket clean but as a result the waterproofness of my Explorer jacket rarely gets tested fully (although it always keeps me dry when asked)

I have a lovely Alpinestars leather jacket in Haga colours (think I bought it in 1999) but it only gets used once or twice a year if that..
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Re: So what do you wear?
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2011, 08:35:19 »
It really depends on what you want to pay. If you diont have much money available to you then you will have to go for cheap textiles and probably replace them after a year. If you have a good amount of money available to you then you can get quality textiles or leathers.

If you want to ride on a race track you have to buy leathers, otherwise I would buy textiles every time.

I have had the same Dainese Goretex gear for 14 years. The pants have just started to leak in heavy rain, the jacket has leaked in heavy rain around the tummy and neck for a few years, but not badly. I think about changing them from time to time, but I recon it would cost me over £700 to get the equivalents today.

If you are flush with cash then the best textlies you can get are probably Rukka, but they are also the highest priced textiles on the market, you could easily spend over £1000 just on the jacket.
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Re: So what do you wear?
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2011, 09:55:05 »
Your original question was would you look like a plank on a wee xp wearing leathers.

I had textiles before but had the same question on leathers as being 50yrs old with a beer gut doesn't go well with leathers on any bike  :grin: !!  Went for it anyway and I got the FT XTI 2 two piece but have a simple rule - I only happy to wear them when I am with the bike.

Wouldn't be seen dead walking around around town in them !!  I would have to put on hi-viz gear to hide the embarrassment. :haha:

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Re: So what do you wear?
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2011, 21:46:53 »
With the exception of gloves and boots I use textile motorcycle clothing excursively.
For day to day use I currently use
An alpine stars Ricard Jacket, but I am not to impressed as it let the damp in a little from but hopefully the spray I just used will cure this
HG Journey trousers
HG Ralleye GTX II boots
HG Jet unlined gloves with liners if needed.
I would love to be able to afford a set of better quality Rukka gortex water proofs but the cost is high and ease of damage in the event of an accident high.

In the summer I also have an older set of HG waterproofs that look like black denim.  Good for light to medium showers but to thin for the colder weather.  I also have a `air' type vented jacket for the hot weather and carry a really thin waterproof Fox jacket in case it rains.
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Like others here its what you feel comfortable in really.

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Re: So what do you wear?
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2011, 22:40:52 »
I go with the philosophy buy the best you can afford at the time. I bought cheaper stuff at the start, which I still have most of. A pair of rst leather trousers. Leather boots, leather gauntlet and a rst textile jacket. I replaced my caberg helmet first as I hated it. I then bought Halvarssons halogen textile jacket and outrider textile trousers including safety lvl 1 inside layer. A pair of raceing style gauntlet and a shark evoline helmet. These I bought bit by bit when I could afford.  I still wear the Leather in the summer .
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Re: So what do you wear?
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2011, 00:17:04 »
For the winter I have a Hein Gericke Master V suit.

And the summer I have 2pc arlenness leathers!

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Re: So what do you wear?
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2011, 09:36:17 »
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And the summer I have 2pc arlenness leathers!
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