Gen 3 DL650 Screen - 2 Suzuki screens = Suzuki Airflo?

[duck-strom]

After a lot of time and faffing about here is how I found the best Gen 3 650 screen (for me ar least).

1. Standard screen, terrible buffeting to the head and noisy.

2. Givi Airflo, very good little buffeting, adding an Aliexpress spoiler improved this to very good. However, I found that the top of the screen wobbled a lot and this I found really distracting.

3. Suzuki Vario Touring screen, tried various heights and angles using Aliexpress screen adjusters and tap washers, slightly better than the standard screen but still a lot of buffeting and noisy.

4. Givi Airflow in lowest position with Suzuki Vario screen mounted above it on Aliexpress VStrom screen adjusters, good little bit of buffeting and bit quieter. (I stole this idea from someone on Stromtrooper)

5. Standard screen with Suzuki Vario Touring screen mounted above it on Aliexpress VStrom screen adjusters. I reckon this is far better than the Givi alone and better than the Givi with the AliExpress spoiler, no buffeting up to and beyond motorway speeds and quieter too.

A fair bit of faffing about with different spacers (tap washers and screen grommets) and bolts to get this put together.

Getting the locknuts into the back of the screen adjusters was a nightmare. Using a piece of bent wire to drop them into place and a piece of sponge to hold them there until the bolts took hold helped, also a slim 10mm spanner with tape across the back to stop the nut dropping out was useful.

If you try this be careful that the bolts are not too long as you can wind them into the Standard screen behind them.
Coming from a Gen 2 DL650 and using the Suzuki Vario Touring screen for that bike (which I found good for removing buffeting but only okay wind noise).

 I find that with all these options there is more air coming round the sides of my torso. is it because the Gen 3 seems narrower around the headlight?

I was initially using an HJC i70 helmet when setting the screen up, the final thing which helped was getting a new helmet (Shoei GT Air 2) which reduced the wind noise a bit more.

[The Doctor 46]

Excellent review, it must have taken quite a while to gain the knowledge through trial and error to put this review together. I'm sure it will be well received by many. Well done and thank you. 

[duck-strom]

Yes, I seemed to have done it to death 

However I now have a bike I enjoy riding 

[luv2andy]

Hi, thanks for your endeavours and commitment to finding a solution for the screen. Wind buffeting and noise is intolerable for me , ruins the entire ride. I'm completely at a loss as to what to do. I've gone down the ali express thing etc and for my mind I need a TALL SCREEN without the added distraction of looking through or over an added small affair. SURELY someone somewhere makes a screen that WORKS ? I spoke with a strom owner who had the givi screen... said it works with the addition of the smaller screen... OUCH .... PLEASE someone enlighten me ??? Or tell me where to get one purchased or even manufactured ? Maybe we should get someone to do that and use this here club to sell or at least market a useable and reliable recommendation ???????

[pb]

I've got a 2016 gen 2 650, the Givi AF3101 screen works great for me no need for the extra fin. I'm 5'10" tall and have had the screen fitted since the bike was almost new as the OEM screen was useless, I've also changed the mirrors for Aprilia style from Ebay which has also helped.

[nigel s]

I have said it before..take all the screens off and go for a ride....You may be surprised...and costs nowt.

Ho Hum

[luv2andy]

I will. I'll report back with flies and rain and all manner over my suit jacket.

[nigel s]

I rode around for a month without a screen waiting for my Madstad brackets to turn up when I got my bike . Bar cruising at 80 odd  when the wind pressure built up it was surprisingly protective ....a bit like riding a naked bike.... ie QUIET with NO turbulence

Ho Hum

[Barbel Mick]

@ luv2andy, have you tried your screen on the lowest setting?
It is my opinion that the buffeting & noise is caused by the big flat screen moving a lot of air & causing a low pressure area behind it. The shifted air has to go somewhere & the low pressure area behind the screen is the place it goes, the problem is your head is in the way & the 'dirty air' hits your helmet, causing the buffeting & noise.
With a lower screen the shifted air is less & lower, hopefully below your head, so any any coming around the screen hits your body, not your head.
It is a help if you can get air, other than the 'dirty stuff' into that low pressure area & that is what the Givi Airflow does & some of these other mods, like pushing the screen away with spacers etc.
On my 650 I had an Airflow fitted, it worked great, Aprilia/diamond style mirrors on extensions made it better, but when I got the 800 I thought I'd save my money & try a few other things before buying the Airflow.
I put the screen on the lowest setting, fitted spacers to push it out, longer ones at the bottom to slope it slightly & it wasn't too bad, but not good enough. I then bought one of these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/376206542364, cheap enough to try it & if it didn't work, throw it away. It worked! I fitted it overlapping the OEM screen (not sticking out above it) and I am looking well over the top of it.
It's good at all legal speeds & some others too. 

[Mark65]

I must be lucky, I have the stock screen with a bit extra at the top and can ride with my visor up at 75mph, eyes over the top

[luv2andy]

@Barbel Mick, thanks for your in depth reply.
I should point out that my 'strom is of the 650 'ilk ; I believe you have the same problem with the 800 ? Anyway I will try the screen at the lowest position; I've already bought an aftermarket smaller screen which is too badly formed to see through., no. good for looking down for potholes etc as it's too "wavy" I'm currently in touch with a bloke who may consider making a bespoke screen which is WIDE enough and TALL enough to combat the air flow. I really don't understand how so many manufacturers have done this without sorting the problem ? Boggles and Mind ...

[Upt North]

Be carful with the width because the mirror stems will hit it.
Upt.
This is my set up and the best screen protection I've ever enjoyed. A little slim for perfection, but I don't do perfection.

[Upt North]

And again.

[duck-strom]

Some better pics of the Suzuki Vario mounted over the standard screen using Aliexpress screen adjusters.

[RaduF86]

I am struggling with the same issue. Bad turbulence caused by the screen, and by the screen + deflector. After reading quite a lot I understood it is pretty much a trial and error kind of problem. Basically spend money to try try try until it works. My approach is to spend the money for riding not for trying out things that might work or not.

Therefore, I have removed the screen and it got really really good! So now the only thing to fix is the ugly look of those 2 metal pieces where the screen bolts in. Any ideas if there is some kind of very very small screen which bolts on there but only to make it look better, and not affect (too much) the airflow? Or this calls for a custom build?

Thanks!

[Rixington43]

I don't know of anyone who makes a shorty enduro style screen for the Gen 3 yet, none of the usual suspects from the previous generations show a version for the new model. Moose, Ermax, Pyramid etc.
If you're happy with no screen then I'd suggest maybe just cutting down the stock screen as shown in this photo. Be pretty easy to pick up a spare if needed for resale from all the people who've replaced the stock item in an attempt to cure the issues?
https://www.stromtrooper.com/attachments/d91522bc-1e7a-4fb8-b91b-8529025bef74-jpeg.303876/

[RaduF86]

Thanks for the reply! Alright, it looks like it is probably the best approach to what I am trying to achieve, and I can cut it to whatever size I want.

[nigel s]

Cutting is fairly easy, a bit of 320 wet and dry on the cut edge brings it back to stock finish.
Black spray paint on the inside  gives a good finish too , seen from the outside , if you want short and are not looking though it.
I went with the madstad brackets to achieve what you are looking for. Any screen can then be fitted with a little ingenuity..and a 6mm drill bit