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Offline greywolf

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A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« on: December 28, 2015, 18:27:14 »
http://blog.motorcycle.com/2015/12/24/manufacturers/Suzuki/multiple-Suzuki-models-recalled-for-valve-tappet-and-cam-wear/?utm_medium=display&utm_source=relatedscout&utm_content=title-1

It appears there was a contamination problem in the tappet(bucket) manufacturing facility affecting the valve buckets on some DL650s. L3 and L4 Glees as well as other models use those buckets manufactured at the time of the possible contamination occurence. The Veek uses different buckets. Those contaminated buckets can cause accelerated wear of buckets and cam lobes. The problem affected world wide manufacture so all countries will almost certainly be affected.

Suzuki of Canada will replace all cams and buckets of bikes with under 4000km as they haven't had a chance to wear significantly enough to know if the buckets are contaminated. Bikes with over 4000km will only have parts replaced if a valve clearance check shows the clearance to be over spec, indicating accelerated wear.
Pat- 2007 DL650A was ridden to all 48 contiguous states. 2012 DL650A outlasted me.
Nicknames I use to lessen typing, Vee = 2002-2012 (K2-L2) DL1000s. Veek=2014+ (L4+) DL1000s. Wee = 2004-2011 (K4-L1) DL650s. Glee = 2012+ (L2+) DL650s

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2015, 21:18:26 »
Bollox.
Thanks for the heads up but the last thing I want is some dealer teaboy/spanner monkey poking around.

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2015, 21:24:41 »
Hopefully, when you do a valve clearance check it won't read wide. Only if it does will you need to be concerned about a remedy. Do a check though.
Pat- 2007 DL650A was ridden to all 48 contiguous states. 2012 DL650A outlasted me.
Nicknames I use to lessen typing, Vee = 2002-2012 (K2-L2) DL1000s. Veek=2014+ (L4+) DL1000s. Wee = 2004-2011 (K4-L1) DL650s. Glee = 2012+ (L2+) DL650s

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2015, 22:55:15 »
How long is a recall left available for after the date of contact by Suzuki?

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2015, 06:52:06 »
I had my Valves checked at 14, 500 miles and the didn't need adjusting. It's now over 18,000 and not showing any outward signs of a problem :shrug: but it's rather unsettling to think it might be sub standard. I dread the thought of letting the main dealer loose with my pride and joy. Please tell me that if it ain't shown up by now then it's OK.
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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2015, 14:07:14 »
If clearances haven't widened beyond spec by 4000km of use, your buckets are good ones.

Added info - an Australian contact said L2s are included in the check there so may be in the UK too.
Pat- 2007 DL650A was ridden to all 48 contiguous states. 2012 DL650A outlasted me.
Nicknames I use to lessen typing, Vee = 2002-2012 (K2-L2) DL1000s. Veek=2014+ (L4+) DL1000s. Wee = 2004-2011 (K4-L1) DL650s. Glee = 2012+ (L2+) DL650s

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2015, 15:00:16 »
Thank you GW :thumb:
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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2015, 19:19:33 »
Found the OZ one easy enough...L2,L3 & L4  models

https://www.recalls.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/1080685

This is a big job for the Suzuki mechanics involving many hours per vehicle. Sounds expensive!

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2015, 21:20:19 »
Hi

My L2 has 51k miles, and checked the valve clearances at 15k, and again at 32k, more than likely will not check them again.
It's running very nicely, thank you.

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2016, 10:58:54 »
Having pondered this, I want a few more miles on the bike to get nicely over the 4k km limit set by Suzuki in other areas & do a valve check myself (tied in with waterproofing the connectors), it will only go to the dealer IF in the unlikely event, anything is out of spec.

Does anyone actually have any idea how widespread this is?
Poking around on the net doesn't come up with any issue other than the touted recall.

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2016, 09:58:50 »
 what is also a worry is there are a lot of unsold 2014 models still in the shops ..you could buy a new bike with 2015 or even 2016 reg not knowing there is a recall on it ...

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2016, 11:42:45 »
The usual situation is a sales hold is put on recalled bikes. They can't be sold unless the recall work has been done on them. Of course the recall must be announced before a hold becomes effective.
Pat- 2007 DL650A was ridden to all 48 contiguous states. 2012 DL650A outlasted me.
Nicknames I use to lessen typing, Vee = 2002-2012 (K2-L2) DL1000s. Veek=2014+ (L4+) DL1000s. Wee = 2004-2011 (K4-L1) DL650s. Glee = 2012+ (L2+) DL650s

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2016, 16:15:27 »

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2016, 17:02:51 »
This is the most detailed description of the situation I've seen yet. There were 51 reports of failures, all outside the USA, when Suzuki Motor Corp. decided to issue a recall.

http://www.stromtrooper.com/3703850-post131.html
Pat- 2007 DL650A was ridden to all 48 contiguous states. 2012 DL650A outlasted me.
Nicknames I use to lessen typing, Vee = 2002-2012 (K2-L2) DL1000s. Veek=2014+ (L4+) DL1000s. Wee = 2004-2011 (K4-L1) DL650s. Glee = 2012+ (L2+) DL650s

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2016, 18:46:38 »
Dealer has told me to call them tomorrow, so I'll update when I know if they are recalling in the UK

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2016, 12:58:06 »
Nothing yet in the UK

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2016, 18:43:22 »
A big scare that's probably nothing really is here already.

Might be something like a one in a few thousand chance your bike will suffer this. Call me a cynical old bloke but I see a bit of Honda (car) and BMW (m/c and car) service strategy being applied here. :stirpot: Happened in less than a hundred bikes that are two to three years old if I read it right. Many more times that number of engines from that era of production could have run out or gone low on oil by now. How can they tell what really damaged the face of the follower and cam lobe? And many of the 6,214 units said to be affected are very likely well past the sort of mileage than any dirt at assembly or problem with the metallurgy would have shown up by now.

Safety issue - risk of dangerous staling I read? :dl_hyperhysteria: You could lose the whole valve lobe so the valve never opened yet the engine would still run and have enough pull to get you out of a situation. And lets face it the noise for a long, long time before this happened would be so horrible and loud you would have it investigated long before.

But just in case you had better be taking it to Suzuki for all its servicing. :whistle: And the only way they are going to know for certain is to check the clearance and then lift your cams off the followers to see the surfaces. Which is what they would be doing to change a valve shim in any case. Dealers will simply say it gets checked at the service - so be sure to bring it in to us for a service. :whistle: Now the dealer is already doing the work and being paid for it by you the customer. So all Suzuki have to do is quickly send out a cam and followers from local country stock now and again which cost's them next to nothing. And that's if its real and not just a groundless scare based on flawed data in the first place. They have no evidence if its dirt, metal or even something else? :whistle:
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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2016, 19:25:08 »
Just been on the Suzuki UK site and went through their recalls section.....Mines in the last 20% of the affected bikes.....so with 4900 miles on the clock I would be expecting a shims gap check...would this be right...?

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2016, 23:26:59 »
I think the uk recall was released on the 8th of Feb .....

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Re: A recall for L3 and L4 DL650s is coming.
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2016, 05:20:03 »
Spurred on by Karls post above, I went on the Suzuki GB site and lo and behold, my L4 Glee is on the recall list. I've had no notification from Suzuki but there is an online form to fill in which despite several attempts will not allow you to submit it to them once completed....  :angry-banghead:
I have sent them an email and will go into the dealer if necessary...