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Re: The moaning old git thread
« Reply #3540 on: September 02, 2023, 12:20:44 »
Interestingly, I've just ran the question 'what happens if a cashier won't accept payment for fuel because you are wearing a crash helmet' past my mate who's a Police Inspector. He said if 'reasonable' (grey area, open to debate) efforts had been made to pay for the fuel and payment was not accepted it would therefore be a civil matter and the police would have no interest in the event. Just saying. He did however stress that 'reasonable' is the same length as a piece of string and was a very grey area. If it was filmed/recorded (helmet cam?) or reliably witnessed (mate) and clearly shows that you have attempted to pay and the cashier has clearly refused to accept your payment, despite your best efforts, it would be reasonable at that point to ride off. You would still need to pay for the fuel, but this could be done by posting a cheque (recorded delivery) or by 'other' arrangement with the owners of the fuel station. It's a lot of fuss and bother in other words but not a 'crime'. You have no legal requirement to remove your crash helmet for anyone other than for a Police officer, at their request, while carrying out their lawful duty. Another however, if the shop/petrol station has clear signage that you must remove your crash helmet as a requirement to be served then you are on a slippery slope as it's their 'bat & ball' you're playing with, their house, their rules as it were.
Alternatively as my mate said, have the correct amount to pay for the fuel in cash and simply leave it on the counter in full view of the CCTV. Sorted. Or just use pay at the pump petrol stations... Phew.
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Re: The moaning old git thread
« Reply #3541 on: September 02, 2023, 13:09:46 »
I agree with 2112, if they request you to remove the helmet before filling up and becoming a customer, it is your choice whether you do or not. If you're not happy to do so, move on.
But it is a civil debt once you have attempted to pay, if they flatly refuse to accept your money then it's your choice to ride off or comply. If you refuse speak clearly into the CCTV that you wish to pay but the payment is unaccepted by the garage.
You could even leave your name and address and ask them to invoice you and include bank details so you can pay. But it'd be a faff.
On a personal note I generally leave my helmet on, I've never been asked to remove it, either here or abroard. It's not modular.
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Re: The moaning old git thread
« Reply #3542 on: September 02, 2023, 14:29:53 »
A while back I had the correct money for my petrol and laid it on the counter, the cashier asked me to remove my helmet - I said I didn’t want to and there is the money for the petrol. She said if you don’t want to take your helmet off don’t come back.

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Re: The moaning old git thread
« Reply #3543 on: September 02, 2023, 16:52:38 »
And I'm sure you haven't, interesting business model...
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Re: The moaning old git thread
« Reply #3544 on: September 02, 2023, 18:38:59 »
I used to get wound up by this, but now I cut these minimum wage people a lot more slack. There are plenty bigger things to get annoyed about! They risk losing their job if they don't follow the procedures laid down by ever higher levels in the big oil hierarchy. Have a go at the mangers rather than the blokes on the till. It wasn't that long ago we called them essential workers....

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Re: The moaning old git thread
« Reply #3545 on: September 02, 2023, 20:37:13 »
SG,
I agree on the point that there are bigger issues to be concerned about.
But.......if you've already pumped the fuel and you wish to pay for it, then what does it solve by removing your helmet.....or not.
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Re: The moaning old git thread
« Reply #3546 on: September 02, 2023, 20:55:01 »
I'm not sure what the problem is. My local station is pay at the pump, there are no staff on site, so it's ride up, fill up & fu ride off.
However if I do fill up elsewhere, while on my own, & the requirement is to remove my helmet then I remove it, I couldn't care less why they're asking, it doesn't matter to me. 10 seconds to take it off & 10 seconds to put it back on. It sounds as though some of you spend longer than that arguing the point at the till?
Mostly, I have Deb with me & while I'm filling up she walks into the shop to pay, if she's asked to remove her helmet then she does so.
Besides that I can't & don't leave my helmet on if I'm not riding the bike. My hearing isn't brilliant & I wear ear plugs, so I can't hear much with the helmet on & if I do leave it on &  walk more than 20/30 steps the sound of my footsteps pounding in my ears isn't nice.
 
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Re: The moaning old git thread
« Reply #3547 on: September 02, 2023, 21:21:36 »
StromGeeza, exactly what I've done. Asked for an address to write to, not vent on the staff. And got waffle and bullshit back from customer service departments.
Mick, it's about the discrimination more than the hassle of removing the helmet. The assumption that because we're helmeted motorcyclists we're more likely to rob them than the Primark clad tweaker in his knackered Corsa.

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Re: The moaning old git thread
« Reply #3548 on: September 02, 2023, 21:44:04 »
Yes I do know & understand that Martyn but life's too short (especially at my age!) to be concerned about things like that.
Besides, I would presume that they have had a reason to bring in that ruling? Maybe they were getting robbed regularly by motorcyclists?     
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Re: The moaning old git thread
« Reply #3549 on: September 02, 2023, 23:28:46 »
@UK_VStrom650,is the Sheffield Tesco store the one on Saville Street, just before the Wicker Arches? If so I expect the shock of seeing someone riding a motorbike with a helmet actually shocked him.
Yes it was that one. I go in there quite often and never had an issue apart from this time. Hopefully they won't bother next time I go in, otherwise I'll speak to the manager or I'll stop somewhere else on my way to the office (the women in the petrol station there have never had an issue with it).

The whole point of having a modular helmet is so it can be lifted up which is more or less the same as removing it, and they see a lot more of my face than the do if I'm wearing a face mask, which I'm still permitted to do without issue, so it makes no sense. If I was in a full face helmet I'd likely remove it to go in shops as I see why they might have the policy (though the face mask point still stands).

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Re: The moaning old git thread
« Reply #3550 on: September 04, 2023, 22:11:20 »
Are any of you boys into vaping?

I was at the Overlander Event in Oxford from Friday to Sunday and about four tents upwind from me was a bloke who seemed to spend almost the whole weekend sitting outside his tent puffing out huge clouds of expelled vape fumes. I mean, this bloke is seriously addicted and had one of those refillable machines with what looked like a 200cc (probably only 2cc really) reservoir underneath it.

So what? The bloke loves to vape.

Well the issue was that my tent was downwind and it was like being downwind of a candy floss stand, OK for a few minutes but after a while the smell started to be overpoweringly sweet and sickly.

This meant that first thing in the morning with a cuppa or in the evening with a coffee I had to either sit inside my tent or just go somewhere else, the bloke was totally oblivious to the side effects of his addiction.

I didn't mind him vaping, his choice and perfectly legal, I just wish he'd actually considered that his pleasure was forcing four other campers to either sit in their tents or seek fresher air elsewhere.



 
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Re: The moaning old git thread
« Reply #3551 on: September 04, 2023, 22:27:33 »
Vaping. A modern epidemic, with major future problems, I reckon.
Vaporised oil in the lungs was always seen as A Bad Thing in the textile and engineering world I was part of. Better than smoking? Probably. Worse than not vaping? Obviously. The big tobacco firms knew the writing was on the wall. They've killed off loads of their old addicts, and the laws have made it harder to recruit new and younger ones. Bring on a "healthier " alternative, start a new fad, get 'em hooked, bingo!

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Re: The moaning old git thread
« Reply #3552 on: September 04, 2023, 23:32:07 »
Yep, noticed lately quite a few youngsters in our area vaping, a number of them young teens.
Guess they think its cool, doubt any of them use it as tool to get off tobacco.

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Re: The moaning old git thread
« Reply #3553 on: September 05, 2023, 20:11:54 »
Vapers are causing me a real conundrum, I'm now not sure who I want to punch the most, smokers or vapers.
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Re: The moaning old git thread
« Reply #3554 on: September 05, 2023, 22:45:06 »
Why discriminate? :icon_batterup:
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Re: The moaning old git thread
« Reply #3555 on: September 06, 2023, 15:28:10 »
The Mrs is a (soon to retire) Pharmacist. A surprisingly large amount of her young customers who vape end up smoking marijuana ? This may be because her Pharmacy is in Ashington, or Ashghanistan as it is affectionately known locally, or there may be a link ? It seems that once you vape you start to crave different flavours and before you know it 'sweet leaf' is on the menu. This almost inevitably leads to harder drugs, Cocaine, Heroin, all manner of pills and tranquilizers, all of which are readily and inexpensively available.
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Re: The moaning old git thread
« Reply #3556 on: September 06, 2023, 16:06:14 »
Got a bit of a steal on some Thule roof bars off the bay, apparently Parcel Arse delivered them to my neighbour this morning because I was out. Just a few minor hiccups with that statement,
- I'm in and have been all day.
- My neighbour is not the name or number they have on their delivery report. In fact noone on my entire street is.
- There are no houses on my street made of Yorkshire stone like the one in their photo.
- On the live tracking, their van was never within 1/2 mile of my address.

2 hours of walking the streets near where their van last geolocated has yielded no results of matching houses and nobody has copped to having received my delivery.

Seems someone got even more of a steal on some roof bars than I did.

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Re: The moaning old git thread
« Reply #3557 on: September 06, 2023, 16:33:06 »
Not me, mate. Royal Fail and Parcel Farce are separate,  we each have our own litany of feckups. Parcel Force will have GPS data of where it was dropped, hopefully they can sort it out.

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Re: The moaning old git thread
« Reply #3558 on: September 06, 2023, 17:22:53 »
Ey up.

Anyone need some Thule roofbar things for a Volvo? Some berk left some here earlier.
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Re: The moaning old git thread
« Reply #3559 on: September 06, 2023, 17:26:05 »
Rusty you're a star, phoned PF and after a short epoch on hold they casually told me it exactly where it had been delivered despite the fact it was about 300 metres from my house. Quite why they can't include the drop location on the tracking when they've given you a name and house number I've no idea, probably GDPR. Bloody site more useful than a grainy resolution shot of a door frame :)

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