Zero skills in that Doctor, did have a go at reversing down the driveway tonight with my lad behind the bike, twice managed it, I liked nigels thought on a piece of marine ply, ordered the Abba bits and will report back on how it goes, I don't mind paddock stands but I have had a couple of close calls and a few scratches on the swing arm so the abba stand should be safer. Any way tomm is install Givi bars day.
Thanks again for the advice all
Mark