New 1050 vs DE

[Peter Campion]

Hi,

In 2015 I bought a new DL1000A which over the course of 8 years and 17,000 miles has been superb at commuting, 2 up touring and everything in between.

Now I fancy a new bike and don’t see anything better than another Strom for the money.

Pre registered XTs are very tempting, but with the new dash I’m leaning towards the new 2023 “base’ 1050, not the DE. I never ride off road and prefer the smaller front wheel, better windscreen, rubber pegs etc., of the road orientated model.

However I have two questions which I hope people on here may be able to help me with. Reading reviews on the web two questions came to mind:

1 - Does the DE have greater rider leg room because of the 21 inch front wheel? Would fitting the Suzuki adjustable pegs on the 1050 have the same effect? At 6’ 2” it all helps.

2 - I thought I had read somewhere that the DE has a different rear sub-frame which results in slightly more room for the pillion. That would be great when my wife is on the back. Is that true or am I misremembering / have misread.

Many thanks for any comments.

Peter

[SteveH]

To plug a tyre, inflate and go or remove the wheel, remove the tyre, patch the tube, reassemble, inflate and go.
That is the question 

Of course you might be confident you'll never get a puncture 

[porter]

A 21 inch front wheel will have no effect on rider leg room. Yes the whole bike will be higher but the seat to peg room will be the same.  Can't  answer about the pillion.
As you already own a 1000 you will know leg room is a bit tight. I've footrest lowering plates on mine and SW motech adjustable footrests ( set in the tall setting with is still a bit lower than the low setting which grounds out to quickly for me) plus a Suzuki tall seat. The footrests can be fitted to any Vstrom and I think the new 23 1050 has an adjustable seat as standard.

[deecat]

I have had the 1000 but now have the 2023 standard 1050.
I used the foot peg lowering kit on both bikes and find the seating position about the same.
You also have the option to raise the seat with the fittings supplied with the bike

The wife finds the seat space the same for both bikes and a couple of things that I like but was not that bothered about before we got the bike is the cruise control and the hill hold.

[Phild]

I took out the new 1050, but purchased a pre reg 2022 1050XT instead. £3500 cheaper and more extras on it.

I don’t go off road.

No brainier for me.👍

[Pannier Down]

I've had the 1050xt, and now have the new 1050. Seat on the high position and cosmo lowering pegs I also fitted bar risers. Perfect for me at just a smidgen over 6 ft 1.
The new 1050 is fantastic, but I mainly bought it because I regretted selling the XT. If you can do without a quick shifter and TFT there's a lot of money to be saved.

[Peile]

Another old thread sorry, should I have started a new one?
anyway I'm looking at cosmos accessories for my 1050re, lowering pegs, headlight guard, rad guard also,
I'm wondering if there's enough free play in the cables etc to fit these bar risers he has? thanks.

https://www.cosmo-accessories.com/brands-2/Suzuki/dl1050-2020-2021/handle-bar-riser-189-detail

[nigel s]

Looks like no , it says at the bottom of the bumph,  longer brake tube ?? ( I presume he means line  ) needed.
Have a 650 so can't help past that bar posting this , was  also available in black ..somewhere...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126247952854?_skw=adjustable+motorcycle+risers&epid=1042148983&itmmeta=01KD5ZNRZM270S3SYWX6R0JYGX&hash=item1d64f6e1d6:g:4KQAAOSwFAllhYgH&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA4FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1dzSU89n9aqaRXVeaNYBA4HSKIJR1sL%2BcUXH%2Bv81lG4ClOrmEf6Uh4qN0CjV%2FhMIeeGuyUikD%2BJDZCVxs2viIPMHeS6AcKnQWZWzXA7%2F9G0LT3H%2Fm8SkeJO7larYaX0DIf5Zn18ah%2F%2BYOqkN%2FrTFB92qy2GnDVwAfDwyLROMHZhpY3YHJlQRJhXYj%2F%2BVF5a%2FzHRZpZUaxLXB9Y8EVl5SfXHclJ%2BRPmm29nPPZcENt00XPEAUghnkJVkbdPomGtyVnh0Rpo4186D4jbMbx8Z5daC%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_6P17_pZg

I have used them on numerous bikes now , and as they are adjustable will give as much as the lines / cables will take.
Sometimes rerouting can help to get that little bit more .

[Rixington43]

50mm is a pretty huge rise, although I understand you could be using them as up and back.
My old vee will just about take 30mm with the stock electrics and clutch line (brake lines are after market) but I dropped to 25mm as I was rubbing the switch gear cables on the underside of the top crown.

[nigel s]

Another option , I have tried these on my CRF  , took them off , too much " tiller effect " for an off road bike  , and they are also my 650 , where the tiller is not a problem , will give some back as well as up and " may "  fit . 

https://sw-motech.co.uk/products/bar-back-for-o-22-mm-handlebar-h-30-mm-back-21-mm-black?variant=37414602801313&country=GB&currency=GBP&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23123479394&gbraid=0AAAABBvvDVCK2k4mj7-XU7I-6_laYGBFu&gclid=CjwKCAiAmKnKBhBrEiwAaqAnZ8nH6XQIzmBXIhDIZbq2QxV4THKq9sxs0VkedYjuFUIZd2L6AFI90BoCjqcQAvD_BwE

Knock offs are available cheaper , as are used on flea bay if prepared to wait.....

[Peile]

Thanks both of you, Sw motech make great stuff, I see now the Cosmo risers need a longer brake cable, not messing with that,
if I got a small rise it would help, can just feel that bit too much of a stretch to the handlebars, those multi stage likely the answer if Sw Motech don't work out.
Going to fit  the Givi DF3117 deflectors as well as the air flow screen, might be overkill but it should leave the riding position very sheltered. I have them ordered from Carpi Moto so should have them next week.
Also need a little clear stick on headlight protector, the Cosmo one might not fit with the Givi winglets on too, though it looks great in the pictures, Sw motech do a similar headlight guard, bit more expensive though.
I got one of those metal guards for the headlight from Temu but just sent it straight back, quality looked iffy and didn't like the look of it anyway. To be fair to Temu the refunded me right away as soon as the return was posted.

[Peile]

I read on here somewhere about raising the seat before lowering the footpegs to see if that makes a difference,
it's only 20mm higher but even sitting on the bike on the centre stand I can feel the slight difference in knee angle,
I can still flat foot the bike no problem but I'm on tip toes rocking her off the centre stand!

Just heard back from Cosmo, the footpeg lowering kit works with the quick shifter, they have a Christmas sale on at the minute too so I'll get a few bits ordered from them.