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Offline renevdb

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CHEC on display after removal of OEM alarm
« on: November 22, 2020, 07:15:57 »
Hello

I’m trying to fix this issue with a 2007 DL650.
The engine won't start...  :angry-banghead:
Display mentions CHEC when powering up.
The previous owner sold it for following reason :
He forgot his keys (including alarm remote control) in his pants when washing ( this what he told to the dealer...)
Dealer removed the OEM alarm and wire loom, but since then it does not start. That is when I bought it...

I have the impression that the engine is OK, but that a wiring issue prevents the communication with the ECU or so?
The fuel pump does nothing when I turn the key, although it’s not broken ( tested with 12 volt and it pumps!)

I installed a new battery but of course this does not solve anything.
The OEM alarm was plugged in under the passenger saddle, with 3 plugs and without modification of the wires... 
Tried to reinstall the wire loom and Oem alarm: no change.
Question: could it be that the alarm wasn’t correctly removed?
Did not find any mention of the OEM alarm in the wiring diagram.

Any help is welcome! 

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Re: CHEC on display after removal of OEM alarm
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2020, 07:33:21 »
In all honesty I have never heard of anyone selling a bike because he washed his keys.
Or a dealer buying such a bike and selling it on in that state.


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Re: CHEC on display after removal of OEM alarm
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2020, 08:08:40 »
It has almost 95.000 km, its rusty and worn.
And of course the price was low.
But it should still be rideable, as it appears complete and without accident?
Otherwise I need to sell it for parts.

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Re: CHEC on display after removal of OEM alarm
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2020, 08:12:53 »
Rusty and worn perfectly describes the first person to reply.

Do the keys have the transponder fitted to disarm the immobiliser?

Did the bike come with a V5? :whistle:
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Re: CHEC on display after removal of OEM alarm
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2020, 08:15:14 »
Edit.

No V5 you are in Brussels. :shy:
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Re: CHEC on display after removal of OEM alarm
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2020, 08:34:30 »
I have checked the remote and the batteries are 2.7 volt instead of 3...
What is a V5?

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Re: CHEC on display after removal of OEM alarm
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2020, 09:01:21 »
A V5 is a UK Registration Document and as you are in Brussels then that doesn't matter.
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Re: CHEC on display after removal of OEM alarm
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2020, 09:11:23 »
I'd say someone has made a bad job of removing the alarm.

I maybe wrong here but I don't recall seeing a plug and play alarm on any Suzuki ..? The only manufacturers I know that has does this are BMW and Triumph. 
Obviously it depends which make/model alarm it is but if it's a datatool it should have been hard wired into the loom with no plugs.
If it's another model alarm which has a plug and play facility and it's been unplugged the circuit isn't complete, hence why you are unable to start the bike.

I could be wrong but that's my take on it ..
 
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Re: CHEC on display after removal of OEM alarm
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2020, 09:14:04 »
I’ll make some pictures

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Re: CHEC on display after removal of OEM alarm
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2020, 10:16:46 »
CHEC on display = one of these.....                 
kill switch, side stand switch, ignition fuse, low voltage/no voltage from ECM to display
There was another thread last week regarding this and the cause was a 'tracker' wired to the fuel pump.
See here............. and check the two links in post #26
https://www.v-strom.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=39009.0
Here is the OP's reply, post #3, (but in the wrong thread) when he got it sorted..........
https://www.v-strom.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=39020.msg400255#msg400255
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Re: CHEC on display after removal of OEM alarm
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2020, 10:29:06 »
In attachment the alarm

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Re: CHEC on display after removal of OEM alarm
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2020, 10:31:07 »
The bike is in bad shape...

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Re: CHEC on display after removal of OEM alarm
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2020, 10:32:58 »
Some more pictures:

I tried to figure out where the alarm was initially based on the connectors. 2 of the connectors found their initial spot.


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Re: CHEC on display after removal of OEM alarm
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2020, 11:19:35 »
Didn't someone have a similar problem with a short jumper cable on the alarm plug ?
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Re: CHEC on display after removal of OEM alarm
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2020, 11:36:11 »
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Re: CHEC on display after removal of OEM alarm
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2020, 13:02:16 »
 :ty: The engine starts ! :dance:
Thank all of you for your help
Apparently the original cable has provision for an optional alarm.
You have to remove a connector cap to click in the alarm - and of course put it back when removing the alarm  :smirk:
This type of connector seems to do the trick


@Moderator: please remove the post if it is not apropriate to document removing an alarm  :topic_closed:

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Re: CHEC on display after removal of OEM alarm
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2020, 13:58:50 »
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Re: CHEC on display after removal of OEM alarm
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2020, 14:05:08 »
Great news, well done  :thumb:
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Re: CHEC on display after removal of OEM alarm
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2020, 14:24:11 »
The key fob denotes META systems.
They used to make plug and play alarm systems for various bikes.

You're better off without it. Meta and datatool alaram have a habit of being absolutely perfect until they fail and You're stuck in the middle of nowhere with a bike that didn't start.

I'd personally walk away from a bike with an alarm fitted. Luckily your bike has a plug and play one.

My XJ600n came with an alarm but it was one of the cheap £20 ones that never work when they should and just piss off your neighbours.
Luckily it easy to remove in 2 min as the fitter only took a live and switched feed and never wired it in to anything else.  :shrug:



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Re: CHEC on display after removal of OEM alarm
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2020, 15:21:51 »
My last bike had a datatool system, it made the bike super secure by ensuring the battery was first every time I wanted to ride it 😂.
Glad you got it sorted so easily, never knew what the plugs under the tail were for.