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Offline greywolf

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Re: DL1000 forks on a 650
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2017, 13:09:01 »
I forgot to add the Vee shock is a few mm longer than the Wee shock. The separate oil and gas should deliver a more precise damping regulation. Oil weight and spring rate changes alone can do a lot for the Vee fork. Better valve settings help too though as the stock valve isn't great.

http://www.vstrom.info/Smf/index.php/topic,2494.0.html
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Nicknames I use to lessen typing, Vee = 2002-2012 (K2-L2) DL1000s. Veek=2014+ (L4+) DL1000s. Wee = 2004-2011 (K4-L1) DL650s. Glee = 2012+ (L2+) DL650s

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Re: DL1000 forks on a 650
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2017, 14:20:51 »
OK, cheers GW.
So... how does the vee shock compare lengthwise to the glee shock (which I believe is slightly longer than wee shock?)

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Re: DL1000 forks on a 650
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2017, 16:04:05 »
I've been thinking Glee and Vee shocks are probably about the same length, but I have no basis for that thought. I haven't measured any.
Pat- 2007 DL650A was ridden to all 48 contiguous states. 2012 DL650A outlasted me.
Nicknames I use to lessen typing, Vee = 2002-2012 (K2-L2) DL1000s. Veek=2014+ (L4+) DL1000s. Wee = 2004-2011 (K4-L1) DL650s. Glee = 2012+ (L2+) DL650s

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Re: DL1000 forks on a 650
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2017, 18:17:08 »
Thank you so very much for the kind offer Hondaman. I'll hang fire 'till we have more settled weather and arrange a meet up. I would really value your thoughts on the Navigator's set up. :thumb:
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Re: DL1000 forks on a 650
« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2017, 18:33:04 »
Steady on there TL, be under no illusion whatsoever, I am in no way, shape or form, any kind of suspenders guru.
I can do the twisty hammery stuff, everything beyond that is a black art that's way beyond me. If I happen to find something that works, it's more luck than good judgement!

But a meetup when the weather fares up sounds good to me.

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Re: DL1000 forks on a 650
« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2017, 18:47:21 »
Twisty hammery stuff just described the Nail. Input and another take on things is all I'm after. I've ridden the for 11 years and faffed and messed about with it. It could be brilliant, it could be sh*te who knows?

The engine is the boll*cks though.... :thumb:
When accelerating the tears of emotion have to run off horizontally to the ear. (Walter Röhrl)

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Re: DL1000 forks on a 650
« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2019, 10:05:38 »
Just wondering if Hondaman is still around and has any more updates on how his fork swap worked out in the long term?
Clive

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Re: DL1000 forks on a 650
« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2019, 13:35:24 »
Hondaman was last active on the forum in November 2017.
Old enough to know better, but still too young to care...

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Re: DL1000 forks on a 650
« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2019, 19:04:24 »
Hello

Just to mention, that I bought the hybrid forks from Hondaman a couple of years ago, and after having the stanchions hard chromed, and the set of forks looked at professionally I fitted them in March this year.

First thing I noticed with the bike was how much more the front end felt planted, and that speed bumps and potholes did not jar my back as much as the standard forks.

Just for my piece of mind, and that I could be imagining things, I refitted the standard forks for about ten days, but realised the hybrid forks were far superior, and after about thousand miles refitted them, and they are still on the bike.

Cheers
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Re: DL1000 forks on a 650
« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2019, 09:33:11 »
Thanks Crazyhorse.  I don't suppose you know if the ex Hondaman forks were standard DL1000 (apart from the fork lowers) or if they've had any reshimming/revalving?  Or what oil you're running in them?
Clive

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Re: DL1000 forks on a 650
« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2019, 19:47:49 »
Hello Wallydog

The 1000 uppers were pretty standard, but I used my 650 springs with spacers made to fit, and used 8 weight oil, as per standard again, but with a larger air gap than usual (less oil).

The only reason I did this was to soften the forks to help my back, and as I am a little on the large size (fat bastard) needed to be comfortable when riding the longer distances I like.

I had all of this work done by MCT suspension in Stowmarket.

Cheers
Crazyhorse

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Re: DL1000 forks on a 650
« Reply #31 on: November 10, 2019, 08:16:43 »
Well it's happened. I purchased a s/h pair of 2008 DL1000 forks and a pair of new 'old stock' 2007 DL650 fork lowers.  I then dismantled the 1000 forks, installed racetech compression and rebound valves plus 85 springs then reassembled using the DL650 lowers, filled with oil and installed to the bike.  It's now a lovely ride.

The only reason I replaced the lowers was to accommodate the DL650 axel which is a smaller dia than the DL1000.

Mines a 2007 650 but I can't see why this won't work for Gen 2 an 3 650's too.

And I now have a set of spare forks.....
Clive

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Re: DL1000 forks on a 650
« Reply #32 on: November 10, 2019, 14:24:44 »
Hello Wallydog

Good to know that I am not the only "numpty" to do this and find a great improvement with the feel of the front end of these bikes.

My 2012 is just a few miles short of 100k now, and feel that I will get it over that mileage before I lay her up for the winter, and complete this winters maintenance and mods.

Enjoy your spring and summer on the bike.

Cheers
Crzyhorse

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Re: DL1000 forks on a 650
« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2019, 01:55:59 »
Slight update, I've now gone to 80 springs and a 170mm oil level with 20cts oil.  At the next fork oil service I might go to slightly heavier oil, 30cts probably but this is really fine tuning the setup.
Clive

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Re: DL1000 forks on a 650
« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2019, 10:43:45 »
Just a note on oil weight that is just my personal experience.....
Too heavy weight slows not only dampening but also rebound, I ended up getting new valves in my forks....I think they were Maxton or something. Either way, I ended up getting a race tuning company to sort it out because I had fiddled with it too much...🤫
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