Suzuki V-Strom (VStrom) Owners Club DL250, DL650, DL1000 & DL1050

V-Strom specific discussion => V-Strom specific discussion => Topic started by: Angus on August 08, 2020, 18:25:57

Title: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: Angus on August 08, 2020, 18:25:57
How to tighten up these nuts? I mean I can get them tight but they keep working their way loose again in a few days. What is the correct way to secure them.
I guess these are the stock mirrors - not great as when on the motorway I tend to be forward tucked into the screen and have to change position to check mirror when needed . Anyone recommend some good big aerodynamic mirrors ?
Title: Re: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: Angus on August 08, 2020, 18:29:51
These mirrors.
Title: Re: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: Rusty Nuts on August 08, 2020, 18:50:41
Two good-fitting spanners, preferably not adjustable. Position mirror where required. Put a spanner on the lower flats at 2, tighten up with the other spanner on the flats at 1. Bearing in mind that the locking collar at 1 is a left-hand thread. Make sure the mirror doesn't move during the tightening process. You'll only need three hands. The spanner at 2 doesn't move, its there to stop the rest of the lower assembly from moving.
Title: Re: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: Angus on August 10, 2020, 14:24:14
that's great . Thank you.
Title: Re: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: blobstrom on August 10, 2020, 17:10:36
BMW pattern mirrors, about 41quid on flea Bay.
Title: Re: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: V-Twin on August 11, 2020, 20:33:24
I just fitted a pair of Halfrauds Diamond mirrors.
£20pr. Look good, just need to test them on my GP circuit.
Title: Re: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: Dirtbiker Martin on August 11, 2020, 22:25:39
Are the Halfords mirrors any wider/longer than the standard ones
Title: Re: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: V-Twin on August 12, 2020, 11:38:39
Not really. Maybe 15/20mm

Title: Re: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: sillyboy on August 12, 2020, 13:23:25
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let us know if there is less wind buffeting.
Title: Re: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: V-Twin on September 06, 2020, 15:08:44
OK went for a nice ride out.
A little windy along the coast road towards Bude.
So this will give it a good testing.

I would say, that after fitting the Givi screen back on, & with the Halfrauds mirrors the difference was an 80% improvement.
I have the Givi on top hole position, & for me 5'9.5" lowest setting on the movable screen.

There is still wind there, but that's there even with out the screen on.
So, the combination of Mirrors & Givi  this is now quite acceptable. In fact very pleased.

Did over 60 miles, some at warp speed so a good test.
This is the 650 VStrom In White, so you know what I mean by warp speed.
Title: Re: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: Barbel Mick on September 06, 2020, 15:25:12
Glad to hear there's a good improvement.
Try mirror extenders, they could/will make a slight difference to the buffeting, plus your rear vision is improved too.
The Givi Airflow works on the Venturi effect, altering the air that gets behind the screen, the more they overlap the better the effect (and the less air being moved around it) so your Sat Nav mount??? where it is, will affect that a little too. I have mine there, because it's the best position IMHO and live with the difference removing it could make. 
Don't forget your on a motorcycle, you should feel some wind in your face or you may as well be in a car?  :grin:
Title: Re: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: V-Twin on September 06, 2020, 15:36:57
Your 100% right there Mick.
"There is still wind there" and now this is so much more like it. Also the buffeting has all-but gone.
Title: Re: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: goldstromboy on September 06, 2020, 19:02:10
Errrrrrr........this is all lost on me.......sorry :shrug:.........my stock mirrors fine.......wind , buffeting ........its a motorcycle......when the weather gets bad I'm always singing Stormbringer by Deep Purple.....been known to carry me for miles  lol...
Title: Re: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: Rusty Nuts on September 06, 2020, 19:14:44
Many vstrom owners, including me with my glee, have experienced extreme turbulence of the type that shakes your head so fast and violently it blurs your vision. Not just a question of  a bit of a breeze, we all deal with that. If you're OK with stock items, good. You're one of the lucky ones. Singing won't put your eyeballs back in their sockets, though, and 300 miles of Stormbringer the way I sing would definitely make things worse.
Title: Re: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: Joe Rocket on September 06, 2020, 19:16:06
I find my stock mirrors are fine too. In fact the size of the mirror helps better view behind. Some folk here seem convinced the shape of the mirror severely affects clean air/buffeting. I think it's just fashion..........  lol

A little exaggerated in my opinion. Rusty Nuts........  :shock:
Title: Re: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: Barbel Mick on September 06, 2020, 20:29:24
I don't think buffeting is an exaggeration for some riders Joe. If you're one of the lucky ones who doesn't suffer from it (and goldstromboy), lucky you. I suffered from it when I first got mine, the Airflow was a big help, changing the mirrors made a little difference then the extenders a bit more difference until I hardly felt any buffeting at all (then I went back a little when I fitted the Sat Nav mount  :roll: but still happy with it). 
Like I said in my earlier post, it's a motorcycle, I like to feel the wind but not battering me around the ears! :)
PS @ V-Twin, your helmet can make a bit of difference too. I had two AGV's when I got the Strom, neither were bad but when I changed to the Shoei GT Air I felt a difference. Not sure I'd have spent that money, just for that difference, but I liked the helmet.  :grin:
Title: Re: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: Rusty Nuts on September 06, 2020, 20:44:06
Definitely not a fashion thing for me. Best way to describe it might be as a high frequency vibration or oscillation, between 5-10 times a second, every second, all the time you're moving.. The sort of thing that makes you stiffen your neck to try and stop your head moving, to no effect other than a stiff neck for hours after a ride. It affects the head, eyes and ears. As Mick said, helmets mirrors and screens can all contribute to making it better - or worse. Curing it is an inexact science, or more accurately a dark and expensive art.
Title: Re: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: V-Twin on September 06, 2020, 21:28:34
Mick, Schuberth C3pro, flip front. Great helmet. Also has the Bluetooth fitted for satnav & telephone.
Having sold my Tiger, (which had a multi position screen) I felt I needed to sort the buffeting on the VStrom.
goldstromboy, until you have changed the mirrors, you will never know how good they are. Great improvement.
Now just using the one bike...Until I get itchy hands & need another fix, maybe a Tuono V4?? which has all but no screen. But the fun I had with the earlier VTwin was out of this world.
I digress, the VStrom really is really great bike. Even better now. Must be getting old... :old:
Title: Re: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: Barbel Mick on September 06, 2020, 21:34:55
Never had a flip front helmet, I don't like them, I don't know why because I've never tried one.  :) But regarding the buffeting, or if you suffer from it and how to fix it.....each to their own.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: Joe Rocket on September 06, 2020, 21:55:38
I guess I'm one of the lucky ones.......  :roll:

I don't look for problems but follow good advice from here which is abundant!

I've been looking at a lot of SV650 ride/reports vids lately and I've appreciated how well protected a screened bike is.

When I ride the GPX I don't think at all about the little screen and even less about mirrors, which I can't blame or even guage as an inconvenience.

A bit snow flake for bikers really but h e y, we all see things differently.

Barbel Mick, I didn't like Satnavs until I had at least tried one. I do now! Same with helmets........no?
Title: Re: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: goldstromboy on September 07, 2020, 01:17:26
Would be interesting to know percentage of world wide ownership who change mirrors to see if I am indeed one of the lucky ones or others possibly unlucky......as for buffeting and turbulence I have enough motorcycle miles under my belt have experienced that......... :)
As said, I agree....we all sort these things in our own way....

I now have a new riding song....Kylies.....I Should Be So Lucky,.......Lucky,Lucky Lucky lol lol lol lol lol lol       Thank You.... :dance: :dance: :dance:
Title: Re: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: Barbel Mick on September 07, 2020, 09:47:04
Quite right Joe. Like I said, I don't know why I don't like them as I've never tried one.
I may, or may not try one in 3/4 years when this one has had it's day.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: Dark-Strom on September 07, 2020, 10:05:40
I guess one size of bike / settings will never suit all, as we are all different shapes and sizes...(obviously nothing to do with cake, beer etc... :grin:)
Title: Re: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: Rusty Nuts on September 07, 2020, 10:55:14
as for buffeting and turbulence I have enough motorcycle miles under my belt have experienced that......... :)


Yet you bought the Airflow screen before your bike was delivered? Surely a couple of choruses of Child in Time would have been more effective, and cheaper?



Title: Re: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: pieman53 on September 07, 2020, 17:46:04
Fitted a Givi Airflow on Sunday which I bought from a fellow member, boy what a change, even with stock mirrors on, the wind was a lot less buffeting. The only down side was the top of the screen was in my eyeline, however because you can change it I sorted it very quickly. Then I had to ride on the M6 for a bit so I raised it to its max just to see what it would be like. Great to start then the rain,  :dl_soapbox: its a bit scary as I could not see very well due to all the spray. Will not be doing that again. :shock:
Title: Re: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: goldstromboy on September 07, 2020, 19:13:33
Yes I did buy the airflow screen before bike purchase........the reason being that I always ( well over 90% ) of the time carry my wife on pillion.....the airflow allows me to tailor the screen more for my pillion.....   ( oh yes it does ! )......can I now direct you to a song by Dave Lee Roth......EXPERIENCE...... lol lol
Title: Re: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: Rusty Nuts on September 07, 2020, 19:29:21
Just get your wife to sing, then the wind won't bother her.
Title: Re: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: Joe Rocket on September 07, 2020, 19:34:04
Should be singing this King Crimson song.......

https://www.google.com/search?q=king+crimson+I+talk+to+the+wind+lyrics&rlz=1C1CHBF_frFR809FR809&oq=King+Crimson%2C+I+talk+to+yhe+wind&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j46j0l5.18208j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Title: Re: Tightening Mirror Nuts ?
Post by: goldstromboy on September 07, 2020, 19:54:27
I remember the 1300 Pan European had small wind deflectors which stuck on to the tops of its mirrors.....could something along these lines help    :shrug:.....it just seems a shame to loose the stock mirrors , their rear vision is superb.....