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Oily Rag - Dedicated to Pat, Greywolf. 26/06/45 - 04/06/18 => Tyres => Topic started by: Toolbox on March 18, 2019, 13:48:43
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I'm looking to get some 'Bike-Seal' puncture proofing snot put into Mr Strom - front and back. Have some long trips imminent and just don't want any flatties! It does look good stuff. www.bikeseal.com. And looks to achieve all I'm after.
Anyone tried it and have comments? Cheers!
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Personally I wouldn't put any such substance in a tyre, no matter what their claims are and if you do get a bad puncture it could render the tyre useless.
Buy a proper external puncture repair kit and a mini 12v compressor.
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:text-goodpost:
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A work colleague put this sort of stuff in his tyres. The rear burst and tore itself to shreds on the motorway and he was seriously injured.
Take the advice above.
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To be fair Brockett, a tyre blowout is probably going to do you an injury irrespective of any product inside the tyre, when travelling at motorway speeds.
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It's alright in a bicycle, but I would take kwackboys advice on your bike.
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Wouldn't even out that shit in my push bike , I carry a spare tube.. :grin:
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a tyre blowout is probably going to do you an injury irrespective of any product inside the tyre, when travelling at motorway speeds.
I've never used one of these sealing products myself, but my issue with them - at least in theory - is that presumably you can end up getting impaled on a nail or somesuch, and have no clue because the tyre stays up due to the sealant. The nail stays put while you're blatting down the fast lane obliviously, with the embedded foreign object potentially doing God knows what to your tyre, making the physical damage worse and worse until it eventually the sealant is unable to contain it any longer, whereupon the tyre gives up in spectacular fashion.... think I'd rather just have that 'oh shit' moment when greeted with a flat of a morning!
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The SV I fixed up last year had that muck in the tyres: they were out of balance by a mile and the rims leaked because it had all gone hard. Took ages to get it off the rims with a wire brush.
Only place I've used it myself was in an old lawn tractor & it did next to sod all good there. For these reasons and those above, I wouldn't bother.
I just pour some snake oil in now: keeps the tyres young & permanently at 8mm tread they say...
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the stuff has a habit of corroding the inside of the rim and sealing area.
Even the stuff that claims to not be corrosive to aluminium.
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I've used it in my previous bike, and put it in to my new Avon Trailriders on the Wee. The seal to a puncture is supposed to be permanent - there are videos on YouTube of multiple nails being driven into a tyre with the sealant then pulled out with a brief blob of sealant escaping then the tyre sealed. I had a slow leak on a new tyre fitted to my pickup - cured by using the stuff, and the same with a ride on mower tyre. Living in the west of Scotland getting a puncture anywhere remote is a disaster as there is usually no mobile reception to get help. To me, there is more risk getting a rapid loss of air in a tyre and struggling to remain control, than having it. It's water soluble so you can wash it out of the tyre if need be.
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I've been using Ultraseal (also now called Puncturesafe) for the last 16 years after a series of punctures on almost new tyres cost me a lot of money. I've never had a puncture since although I've had things go through the tyre which I removed without a flat developing. If the hole is sufficiently big for it not to seal, then it would be too big to safely plug anyway and a new tyre would be needed. I've used it on several bikes and done in excess of 150mph (on the Continent Mr Plod!) using it with no problems at all. It never causes any corrosion on the inside of the rims, but as I never get more than about 2,500 miles from a rear and 3,500 from a front they're probably not on long enough to cause this. However, tyre fitters hate the stuff which I well understand, but as I fit my own tyres it's my own mess so it doesn't bother me. So in my experience it's highly recommended. Suggest you Google it and do a bit more research on it.
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Not sure if it’s the same stuff , but I carry an aerosol of Tyre sealant in my top box. I have seen it work on a friends CBR600, when in rural Scotland, getting her back to civilisation to get the tyre replaced.
It does say on it though it’s a temporary fix for up to 60 miles at max 45 mph so failure at motorway speeds wouldn’t be a problem.
I bought it as only a few pounds where the plug ones seem to be about £30 and you need a pump as well.
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No, not the same. Ultraseal is put in usually when the tyre is new but can be used at any time and is there permanently. It plugs punctures as soon as they occur and is a permanent repair for the rest of the life of the tyre. Obviously if the hole is too big or there is a major structural failure it can't seal it, but may slow down the rate of deflation sufficient to enable a safe stop. Lots of cars now don't have a spare wheel and carry an aerosol for emergency re-inflation but as far as I know these are speed limited and are just to get you to a place where you can get a proper repair done. I've never used one although I carry one in my MX5. I had a BMW bike that came with an OEM roadside glue/plug and repair kit that I used on a friends bike but it just didn't work. We were not impressed!
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AndyM at his finest.
https://sites.google.com/site/pooratrek/tyre-repair
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lol lol lol
Just noticed a more recent addition....
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:clap: :clap: lol lol
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The way I see it, when using any of these tyre sealants is that one simply forgets to check the overall condition of the tyre. Where as before, the Tyres where checked for pressure / damage / thread depth / etc, prior to any trip.
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Yes, I have to admit I've never checked my tyres in the 16 years I've been using Ultraseal..................
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lol lol
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Had some gloop (think that's the name) put into the new tyres fitted at Russ's tyres in Portsmouth. He says its not a problem for him to mend punctures in tyres filled with this. supposed to show a blue patch on the surface of the tyre to show its been punctured/sealed. Its not a permanent repair but won't leave you stranded. Had it done before touring Switzerland last year. Never had any balance issues and it gave peace of mind that I would not be stuck it some S£it hole layby...or Switzerland (Same difference)! Personally I could not be bothered messing around with a plugging kit and compressor. Will get it added to the new A41's I'll be getting shortly.
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To be fair Brockett, a tyre blowout is probably going to do you an injury irrespective of any product inside the tyre, when travelling at motorway speeds.
Had just that in May 2015 at 115kph on the Autoroute between Tours and Blois, fully loaded and two up. Bike snaked across the motorway to the hard shoulder....err, safely! :shock: The rear tyre was ripped open by a slither of metal 2" long. If it was the front tyre I'm sure your statement would have been correct. Tyre irrepairable but glad to get rid of those Trailwings......
I carry a gunge 'bomb' only for temporarily sealing the tyre, enough to get to a garage or maybe only to remove the wheel somewhere safely.
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Not really a prevention but... I've used the Stop and Go Pocket Tyre Plugger for years.
It's never failed to fix the puncture in minutes and a few CO2 canisters have always filled the tyre with enough to get me home.
I've used it in tyres for 1000's of miles with no trouble. Never seems to effect the balance of the tyre either.
Easy to get hold off in the UK just google it.