Suzuki V-Strom (VStrom) Owners Club DL250, DL650, DL1000 & DL1050
Oily Rag - Dedicated to Pat, Greywolf. 26/06/45 - 04/06/18 => Oil/Lubrication => Topic started by: Hilldweller on December 31, 2013, 16:03:33
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This bike came with a scotoiler. Today whilst fitting the longer dogbones I saw the useless bit of floppy pipe pointing anywhere but at the sprocket.
So like on my last bike, pick up a piece of 4mm copper tube, solder some copper sheet to it as a bracket and in minutes I have a rigid tube almost resting on the sprocket that is not going to move.
You can get the tube for a few pounds off ebay or good model shops.
I don't know why they don't supply this as standard.
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No pics :shrug:
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No pics :shrug:
If you insist :)
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3666/11669929273_8b73626159_o.jpg)
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That is one seriously good tip - been trying for ages to get the delivery pipe to stay in place on my Tutoro Chain oiler - never had any problems in the past when using Scottoilers though.
Stobie
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on my Tutoro Chain oiler -
Stobie
That was my last oiler. I sent the pics to the maker. They probably won't bother to improve the design. You'll see the picks of an ER6N on their web site. It's real problem was if the road was bumpy it over oiled the chain. And drill a hole in the edge of the cap and use a cord so you can't lose it. I lost one and they sent me a freebie.
The tube was about £3 and the scraps of copper I have lying around or you could use some 15mm copper water pipe.
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The tube was about £3 off ebay and the scraps of copper I have lying around or you could use some 15mm copper water pipe.
That needs clarifying. You need the 4mm copper tube for the oil feed but the 15mm copper, I had in mind hammer it flat to make the bracket.
Anyone trying to feed oil down a 15mm pipe is doomed to failure.
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Anyone trying to feed oil down a 15mm pipe is doomed to failure.
or an incredibly well lubed chain!
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Anyone trying to feed oil down a 15mm pipe is doomed to failure.
or an incredibly well lubed chain!
and wheel and tyre and drive and.......................... lol
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I remember when I first got the bike... I wondered how the scotoiler worked. Figured it out but left it turned to max flow. Rode about a mile to the shop and back... checked the oil level... empty. There must have been a continuous line of oil behind me. And the back of the bike was covered in blue oily slime.
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There must have been a continuous line of oil behind me. And the back of the bike was covered in blue oily slime.
Much like my neighbours: they have an old Morris Minor Woody and we call it the Amoco Cadiz for the cloud of hydrocarbon shite that follows it. :text-datsphatyo:
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When I last got my bike Allyearbiker'd a bloke turned up with a brand new Scottoiler saying "uh, not sure if I've got the flow rate quite right yet..." You should have seen the look on the Allyearbiker chap's face when he saw all the oil he'd have to clean off the back of that bike! :)
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oil makes a mess, but it protects it... that's why mine gets copious amounts of wd40/gt85 sprayed at it over winter and comes out the other side looking no worse.
Just is a bugger to clean off when spring comes. :shrug:
trick is never ever ever ever ever clean the thing. :auto-dirtbike:
but, the state of my bike atm, well I've seen cleaner tractors come out of fields after muck spreading. :shy:
But I like most things dirty. :thumb:
Proper Scot-oil stuff is just too expensive for what it is so, I was using chain saw oil in the Scotoiler for about 18months (20k miles) went through about 1.5ltrs of oil @ £6 a ltr. made a mess, was an even bigger PITA to clean off (if that's your thing) and just made the crud stick to the chain and make grinding paste after a while. (I do clean and manually re-oil my chain every couple of weeks)
Now I use the large supply of used engine oil I have accumulated in the last year, about 15ltrs of the stuff. If anyone wants some I'm your man! (I will not be using the used Diesel engine oil from the mrs car- way too naffed)
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I used to use cheapo new engine oil in my Scotoiler, the really cheap nasty stuff they used to sell for old cars at £9 for 5ltrs, or cheapo gear oil - like the 7 bottles of Castrol EP 80/90 I've got left over from the R1100RT I picked up for a quid a litre.
Not quite as cheap as used oil, same effect though.
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Urm cheapo car engine oil... jusy what I picked up from halfords the other week for the strom engine. Seems happy running with it.
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I have a good supply of ep90 which is, I think, what the scotoiler stuff is.
It works very well too.
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I picked up 5l of 75w140 gear oil a few years back and should have about half of it somewhere in the garage: it was an apparent improvement for Alfa transaxles (had a 75 V6 then). I wonder how it would fare in an oiler?
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Hilldweller does that setup not just throw the oil straight off the chain due to centrifugal force ??
I thought it had to drip onto the chain midway between the 2 sprockets :shrug: .
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that's a standard setup location and angle for the single feed for scotoilers, though this does vary depending on model of bike and who sets it up :shrug:
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The ideal place is around 7pm on the sprocket about 1cm in from the edge, centrifugal force carries it to the edge of the sprocket where it meets the chain at around 12pm. Get it right and you get minimal fling and your chain will need very little adjustment will last 20k plus, get it wrong and you'll get it everywhere!
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7am no good then?
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7am no good then?
lol
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Nope it has to be pm, the oil is too thick in the morning ;)
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Loggamat, you're so right :)
It's easy to spot a chain oiler incorrectly calibrated..........the back of the bike is covered in the stuff... lol
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I cover my oil spray in mud :haha:
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Hilldweller does that setup not just throw the oil straight off the chain due to centrifugal force ??
I thought it had to drip onto the chain midway between the 2 sprockets :shrug: .
I think the theory is it coats the sprocket which works it into the chain. Some pipes are split to oil both sides of the sprocket.
We are trying to oil the side plates to protect the O-rings.
I guess dripping in the middle would coat the middle which would coat the sprockets which would coat the sides.
I did love my Divi900. Tour for ever and just put in fuel. But it was one heavy beast. I had a BMW F650 Scarver and I worried more about the belt drive and the cost of one. Got rid because the engine vibration was loosening my fillings, but otherwise it was a really enjoyable bike.
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My latest adaptation of Hilldwellers idea..
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22717199/Scott%20Oiler%20Modification.jpg)
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Looks like that back wheel is very oily, the water is beading on it?