Suzuki V-Strom (VStrom) Owners Club DL250, DL650, DL1000 & DL1050
Other Stuff => The Blue Oyster bar => Topic started by: pichulec on October 16, 2023, 09:46:23
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Last night my bike has been stolen, if you see it anywhere please let me know. Reg PJ04 OTR.
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Bugger, I hope this gets resolved soon, one way or another.
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Bastards
Hope you get it back.
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It makes me angry just reading this. I hope you get it back soon and in good order. Fingers crossed.
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I'm angry on your behalf. The penalties for convicted thieves are pathetic and I doubt the police will spend long trying to find the culprits anyway.
Grrrr!
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Bastards ### ### sorry to hear this pichulec, I know how much you love that bike.
Hope it gets recovered or the insurance sort it out.
Also hope karma gives them a good :violence-smack:
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Life sucks, then they nick your motor, nuff said.
Seems a strange bike to nick too, a fairly rare beast which will stand out.
Maybe stolen to order if someone wants the specific parts?
Good luck sorting it.
Upt and angry.
But not surprised.
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### local bike thieves are known to all in this locale and have been lifted numerous times, dealt with by the full force of the law with less than no effect and given several severe beatings by disgruntled and angry victims. Both courses of action have done nothing but strengthen their determination to do more....
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Sorry to read this. I hope you get it back soon.
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Just wondering what security they breached.
Maybe we could all learn something here. I know I'm a little laissez-faire on such security matters. Or am I lackadaisical. Or do I procrastinate?
Either way, let us know me duck.
Upt.
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So sad to hear this, I just rebuilt his forks for him too .. :icon_no:
As said, unusual bike to steal... :shrug:
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Motorcycle found. Burned to the ground.
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Sorry to hear that, shame the little bastards weren't strapped to it at the time 🤬
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Bugger. What a complete waste... Very, very sad.
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why carn't they leave your stuff alone pisses me off :icon_exclaim: ###
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Sorry to hear this. Hopefully the insurance sorts you out quickly and you're able to get something to replace it
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So sorry to hear this Pichulec I know how much your bike meant to you and all the work you have done to it.
Bloody bastards why burn it :dl_smiley_banghead: :dl_smiley_banghead:
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How terrible, such a cared for bike. I always enjoyed reading posts on your mods etc.
Also a loss of a rare bike, barstewards!
I hope you come out of it OK on the insurance.
Gutted for you :dl_smiley_banghead:
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Sad news. I know how much your bike meant to you. Your posts and videos are inspirational. I hope you get back on the road soon and you can continue in the same spirit.
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AH SHIT.
Get a case number off the police it will help with the claim.
Still, look on the sunny side ...........new bike on the horizon.
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So sorry to hear that has happened, shame there is no real punishment for the bastards.
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Motorcycle found. Burned to the ground.
The Bastards.
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They used to hang thieves.
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If they were really bad they would be sent to Australia! :roll:
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Insurance has paid me for the bike, the history is now over. They paid me silly money for all the parts and heart I have put to this bike. As much as £1900 minus £500 excess (which I claimed back from excess protection insurance). I managed to get paid in 2 weeks which is quite quick for the insurance stories but it cost me hours of hours on the phone during these two weeks. Anyway, I was lucky enough that I have removed my upgraded LED head lamp one week before the theft to send it for repair to Poland (small issue with flickering led rings) and the bloke who modified the headlight for me has bought it back from me for same money I paid for it (£800). So in total I have managed to recover £2700. I have already decided what kind of bike I want next and I am starting to save now. Probably it will take me about a year to save enough. My next bike will be Triumph Tiger 1200 - 2022+ model :) Traitor corner it will be :)
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Glad you had a reasonable result all-round.
Good luck with the saving :thumb:
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Am also glad you got a decent result from the insurance and from the headlight upgrade bloke (that's good customer service!)
Also pleased you're now eying up the next bike. Hope the saving goes well and you're back on two wheels soon :thumb:
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Once you have the bike once, you will never give up on buying another, even if you loose it. You just need time to heal the wounds. It is as addictive as drugs, or even more :)
I am over with the theft already, reconciled with the loss and moved on.
Looking for the room or the house with the garage and it I will make it fort knox. Camera, tracker with subscription, garage, tons of locks + anchor inside the garage. What happened to me last time will never happen again. I will not let anyone steal the new bike from me again.
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I have decided to start a fundraiser, maybe that will enable me to get back on 2 wheels a bit quicker. Not expecting big response but every little penny counts. All I ask is to share. If anyone wants to donate anything, feel free. Thanks blokes :)
https://gofund.me/3c540212
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I am so pleased you've got the financial bits sorted in such a timely manner - well done :thumb:
Just make sure you get a test ride of the new tiger before you buy one. I had one out on a test ride and found that it vibrated like a whacker plate, I had to return it to the shop with hands numb up to the elbows! Try, before you buy.
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Glad to hear the insurance coughed. I thought it would at least take until the sun came back out for you to cave on biking :)
Definitely get out for a test ride ASAP though, you commented you wouldn't have another Strom due to weight, the Tigger is heavier ;)
* It's good to wait a bit to replace a stolen bike anyway. Thieves often steal a bike and then come back a few weeks later to steal the inevitably more valuable upgrade, they did exactly that to a mate of mine and he chased them off his drive in his pants wielding a length of CLS :)
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Is Tiger also top heavy? I did not felt the weight when I went onto test ride in Tiger 1200 2022 model.
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A test ride bike likely won't have a full tank of fuel and that's 20kg right at the top but if it felt good then it felt good, that's all that matters.
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The later Gen 4 (2022 on) models are noticeably lighter than the previous generations. They are slightly top heavy, but only slightly and they feel like a toy compared to the weight of mine! They are quite tall mind and the higher pillion seat exagerrates this a bit. Very agile and plenty of go, just be sure you can live with the vibrations...
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They had to make the 2022 model lighter for Josh to ride it to do the the R&D. lol
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2112 I don't think anything can vibrate more than Vstrom 1000 😅
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The V-Stroms are a smooth as a baby's bottom compared to a Gen 4 - trust me, get a test ride. I took one out armed with a pocketful of money and came home convinced I had a far better bike than the one I had just ridden! Here's a copy of my review from this here forum -
Well, that was an interesting test ride. I managed to blag a double slot so I could have the bike for two hours, a feat not often achieved at Triumph Newcastle I can tell you. Firstly, the new Tigger is a LOT lighter than my model, it feels more like a 650 V-Strom than a 1200. Very impressive and a good start. It's a good looking bike too (subjective, admittedly) and the blue metallic paint really jumps out in the sunshine. The two side-by-side are quite similar but the new Tigger has a much higher pillion seat making it a bit of a stretch to get on (33" inside leg too). Once onboard it is very familiar with near identical switchgear and a slightly newer TFT dash, but I much prefer my versions dash layout better. Starting it up and you notice the first difference, the engine is very gruff at tickover and feels and sounds more like a V twin. On the move and the lighter weight makes it a joy to ride in traffic and it has a very easy, slightly positive turn in. Once set in a corner it holds a line well and you can turn in even tighter if you need to without protest, acres of ground clearance too. I didn't find the suspension to be as good as on my version, maybe the lack of weight but it felt a bit 'choppy' and not as plush as on mine. I did have a good play with the setting but it never felt as together as the suspension does on the Gen 3 Tigger, in my opinion anyway. The brakes at the front are amazing and you can stop this thing on a 10p piece, very good feel with massive, but progressive power - top marks Brembo. The rear felt the same as my current tiger and was OK but nothing startling. The standard screen, like all standard screens I've ever tried was very poor but I'm sure would be easily fixed with a trip to see Mr MRA or Mrs Powerbronze. The riding position was, not too surprisingly, very similar to my tiger but as I've tweaked the ergo's on mine not quite as comfy but a set of handlebar spacers would sort that.
On the road the new engine is lively, masses of low down grunt, a bulging midrange and it still has a flourish at the top end, very impressive. The gearbox and quickshifter are the work of a genius and even better than the set up on my tiger (just, but credit where it's due) and a far cry from the horrible offering on the GSA I rode a few weeks ago. If it all sounds like I've fallen in love with the new model and gone and bought one, well it's not that simple.
You see, there is a fly, nay elephant in the ointment called vibration. Within 20 mins of setting off I had to pull in to get some blood back in my fingers. I have never experienced vibration like this on any bike before, from Guzzi's, big singles, rattly 2 strokes nothing this side of a whacker plate vibrates like a 2022 Tiger! On the way back to the dealers (after only 35 mins) I had the cruise control set so I could hold on to the plastics around the tank as it was the only bit of the bike not vibrating, horrendous. When I got back to the shop I was numb to the elbows and it took me a good 20mins to sort myself out after getting off. The dealer was not terribly surprised and blamed my current model for being 'too smooth', a curse clearly. The new 'T' plane crank is a disaster and whoever signed that off at Triumph should be taken out the back and dispatched in a humane manner...So it looks like I shall be hanging on to the tigger for the foreseeable future.
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Well, I had this tiger for one hour ride from Triumph Woburn and did not experienced anything what you are describing regarding vibration. Do you think it might be particular bike specific, not the model??
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There seems to be a growing speculation on some Tiger forums that it may be some bikes are worse than others? It may be for a number of reasons (engine mount torque, accessories and even crank assembly) but you do see a lot of nearly new 1200's up for sale. I had a 900 as a courtesy bike once, and some people complain about them but the one I had was a peach of a motor and very smooth. There is also a school of thought that suggests the engines get less vibratory with mileage? I suspect that could be owners getting used to it but I know Guzzi's take about 10,000 miles to 'settle in' and do get a lot smoother with miles.
If you get the chance try a different model and see if that is OK? Some people don't notice the vibrations, a bit like some people not noticing wind noise & buffeting. It's all a personal experience.
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Just a thought, if weight is a concern how about a Tiger 900 ? They have recently upped the power in the latest models.
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You starting to convincing me out of Tiger. Any advice for Adventure bike with upright position, with shaft, 100hp or more, as light as possible (about 200kg would be nice), not top heavy, not super mega expensive (up to 10k for used one), with cruise control and reliable? Is something like that exist? Want something else than vstrom. On road only, I don't do terrain.
How is Tiger 900 with vibration?
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A Super Tenere fits most on your list, the quoted weight is high but Yamaha went to great lengths to keep it low down.
I'm only around 72kg, mid 60's and can pick it up without too much stress. I practiced on grass. Mine as been totally reliable, is all day comfey and the seat height is not too high. They are also extremely good value as everyone overlooks them.
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You won't find a shaft driven adventure bike under 200kg ..
10k is a good budget , try a used BMW 1200gs or GSA.
Earlier models have better gearboxes..
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I heard that BMW shafts are destroying themselves into pieces... OK, lets forget about weight, any other options with shaft?
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Forget shafts,that is what scottoilers are for,and the market opens up, a Tracer900/9/gt would fit the bill.
If you test ride one just try not to knock too many points off for the terrible screen that will get replaced very quickly.
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See, I don't want to buy the bike and start replacing things like in the old one.
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You say that now..... :grin:
Ho Hum
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I heard that BMW shafts are destroying themselves into pieces.
Yes , there's lots of stories of exploding BMW shafts, the GS is the most popular adventure bike on the road and their shaft design is used on many models.
So yes , you are going to hear all the bad news from owners complaining their shaft drive has given up thinking they're maintenance free, they're not .
A fluid change and an inspection every 10k or so will see it last the life of the Bike.
In all the years I've worked on bikes I've changed one bevel on a BMW due to bad maintenance and only ever heard of two complete shafts giving up, again , bad maintenance.
No .. I'm not working for BMW .... :grin:
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BMW did also finally cop to there being a design flaw with the shaft or rather with the lack of drainage for the housing. There is a recall option to have the shaft housing drilled and a flapper seal added (which is present from the factory on the 1250 I believe), my mate had it done on his 1200LC last year and BMW replaced the shaft at the same time for free. Other than that he's had very few issues.
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/news/2022/august/BMW-driveshaft-service-check
The big Tigger does tick off most of your list though if shaft drive is desired. I wouldn't discount it if you liked it, maybe just get another test ride from elsewhere and cast a more critical eye based on what others have said. I think 'feel' and 'character' can be very personal things. I have a mate who will only ride screaming inline 4s which I find about as charming as a fridge freezer and the high end revs make the enamel on my teeth itch. Equally he thinks air cooled American twins belong with truck diesels but I'd have one in a heart beat.
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Hi P, I wouldn't buy Triumph due to continual build issues over the years that they appear to dismiss and have not owned.
Whilst Honda are not my favourite or most disliked brand, there's the VFR800X (100bhp) or the heavier 1200 if you want shaft drive.
Shaft wise there's the pretty-much unburstable FJR1300, further a field the Moto Guzzi Stellvio 1200 or the new V100 Mandelo 1000 to name a few?
Good luck, bike shopping is fun, bank balance permitting 😊
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Wasn't that Guzzi do the V85TT that was 850cc and shaft drive?
Some do say it's heavy and slow though iirc.
Having owned a shaft drive, that I quickly gave up for the Strom, - chains are trusted and wear is visible - shafts hide wear and when they go, it's a workshop job.
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Shaft drive is great but it does limit your choice somewhat. Only Japanese bikes are the Yam super 10 or the Honda vfr1200x that I know of which leaves you in Euro bike land. I'm sure there great now as it's been about 15 years from I owned any.
I bought a new Gs in 07 I think, universal joint broke in the shaft at 7k miles, was replaced with a KTM990 which the alternator nut fell off and wrecked the crank, a Triumph tiger 1050 replaced that, it liked oil and started dropping out of 3rd gear everytime you rev'd it over 5k. See a pattern lol.
My strom may be boring but it just goes and asks for very little.
Anyway good to see you're thinking about a bike again, I know all too well how hard they are to stay away from.
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How do the spokes hold up on the Yamaha Super tenere? I have not read any reports on them giving much trouble.
A good tourer with shaft drive that's well balanced despite it being heavy on the scales.
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The spokes on my S10 have so far been good at 30k miles, no adjustments needed and no rust but they are tarnished in places. However, I don't use the bike over winter, the Wee does that duty. Also being tubeless is great for piece of mind when longer trips.
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Now I don't know what I want again. Thanks for help hahahaha. lol lol
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Tiger 12 :thumb: they handle really well considering what a lump they are. If you want the full Ewan and Charlie edition the Rally Explorer/GT Explorer comes with a 30L fuel tank :shock:
They are a bit tall though :shy:
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No mention of the broken S10 spoke Josh? :stirpot: That ride I had on your S10 all those years ago convinced me the end was nigh for the Nail, the suspension on the Yamaha was so composed compared even to the Wilburs on the Cagiva.
GLWTS of the Strom. :)
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I have had two yamaha 1200 tenere , both brand new both of them had spoke problems . No matter how I looked after them ( never rode in salt & very little rain use ) they went all cruddy not rusty but like a crust on them . I put it down to poor quality.
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The problem with spokes is the stainless steel can't be high grade stainless as it's too brittle and prone to snapping.
Seems they went a step too far considering the weight of the 1200 Tenere and the fact it's going to be heavily loaded.
They should go back to the 80's and 90's when the spokes were lower grade stainless and they gel coated them - but that's too expensive!
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OK, Tenere is out due to spokes. Don't want to spoke wheels anyway, cast only as I will not be doing any terrain riding. Road only. Next proposition please :D
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A vstrom 1050 .. :shrug:
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lol lol lol Anything other than vstrom? :D
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Just checked how much I would have to pay for the insurance for the tiger. Cheapest quote over £2000.... Legal thieves... Only because my bike was stolen.. I don't know if I will ever afford anything new-ish..
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Maybe something secondhand might be the way to go. Plenty of bikes available between the £4-6k mark which would get you back on two wheels and hopefully not too bad to insure (Though you'll find you get hikes for the next 5yrs because of the theft :dl_smiley_banghead:)
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Checked Versys 1000 on Milton Keynes address. £500... Looks like my Luton address is BURNED like the stolen bike lol
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The Guzzi V85tt is light, agile and has a very engaging charcter. I struggled to find a suitable screen set up despite numerous attempts so got rid of it. Buffeting & wind noise aside, it was a very capable road bike with massive amounts of useable midrange. You can pick them up very cheap now too.
The old Stelvio 1200 is a different proposition, on paper it's very heavy, but it's low down weight due to the longditudinal crank being between your feet. They are surprisingly agile and handle very well. Super comfy too and come with a lot of kit as standard. They 'only' have 103 hp, but bags of torque. I had mine flat out in Germany, fully loaded showing 141mph on the Sat Nav! My former NTX is the longest I've owned a bike at 3 1/4 years. I only sold it as it needed at set of front discs every year (yes, every year) and was out of warranty.
The Supertenere Yam's are a good shout too, mine was mint when I sold it at two years old an 10,000 miles on the clock. Again, heavy on paper but they carry the weight quite low. The ZE version has the electronic suspension & cruise control. My spokes looked as good as the day they were made too.
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Nothing stopping you from keeping a new bike at the MK address ... :whistle: :icon_wink:
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Yeah, but first I need to move there :)
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I am moving house next month (Found the Room in the house with the access to garage). that's first step. I also made the decision which will be backed up by the test ride and possible made it final. The new bike will be KTM 1290 Super Adventure. I don't know if it will be R or S version yet. Now the only thing I need to do is save about 8k + 1k for insurance. Till may I should be able to buy new baby :)
To Summarise excluded motorcycles.
Vstrom 1000 - 1050 - didn't want another vstrom, wanted something different.
BMW 1250GS - To expensive to buy and insure, boxer engine side covers easy to damage on drop.
Triumph Tiger 1200 new model - to expensive to buy - out of my range.
Triumph Tiger 1200 old model, to much top heavy.
Yamaha Super Tenere 1200 - To old dash and lack of electronics.
Honda Africa Twin. Lack of power on motorways, dull engine.
Honda VFR 1200 - To heavy.
Ducati multistrada - To expensive
Only issue with KTM I can see for now is chain drive, but I can live with it considering pro-s.
So to Summarise 1290 Super Adventure:
Shit loads of power
Comparable to GS with electronics assists etc
Super nimble
Good for tall rider
Very offroad capable
Price and insurance does not kill like with the GS
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Nice choice. The olnly thing that's stopped me having a KTM to date is the fact nearesst dealer is 73 miles away. It there was one in Newcastle I'd have had one.
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Admit it , its an obsession with orange... :stirpot:
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I can guarantee you'll enjoy that if you buy it. :icon_drool5: :auto-dirtbike:
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My two penneth.
Unless you are planning any substantial off tarmac miles buy the "S", even the "S" can do gravel tracks with ease. The "R" really is a giant dirt bike with the associated compromises. If you can, test ride them both.
KTM dealers are absolute shite.
The bikes themselves are very straightforward to work on and the owner's manual is very comprehensive, if you don't fancy doing the valves (every 18k) a decent independent (Kwackboy) will undoubtedly do a far better job than a dealer.
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Yes, only S version considered :)
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Some more advice ..
Keep to your service schedules on a KTM , it's not like your KLV . It won't make it to 80k Miles to have a valve check .. :thumb:
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Noted :)
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Buying end of January. Can't wait :) I will be able to afford 17-18 plate with 7000-20000 mileage and full set of panniers.
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The time of purchase is coming, can't wait :) Missing riding so much..
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Hi Pichulec I absolutely loved my KTM 1290 super Adventurer S
It was a great bike, unfortunately I only got to do less than two thousand miles on it, then I fell over and broke my Tendon above my knee so I couldn’t get on it anymore so had to trade it in for the very low Harley.
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Deposit paid. Now I only need to prepare garage, install ground anchor, new locks etc and can purchase :)
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Looks very tidy, enjoy :thumb:
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Rather super. Have fun.
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Looks lovely
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No rust at all, happy days. Collecting in 2 weeks :)
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Looks like new & been well cared for - always a good sign. There are a few
scruffy gits people on here that could take heed from such a clean & tidy motorcycle...
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That looks amazing.
I honestly don't know how you keep a bike looking that clean.
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2112 - Who do you think you are calling "People" :icon_batterup:
lol lol lol
Happy new Bike
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That looks very tidy mate, mine presented exactly the same. I coated all the fasteners in XCP using a very fine brush. It has been ridden in salt and all weathers and the fasteners are all still rust free.
Enjoy. :lala: