Suzuki V-Strom (VStrom) Owners Club DL250, DL650, DL1000 & DL1050

Oily Rag - Dedicated to Pat, Greywolf. 26/06/45 - 04/06/18 => Accessories and After Market items => Topic started by: NTBooth on March 29, 2019, 05:25:41

Title: Unacceptable?
Post by: NTBooth on March 29, 2019, 05:25:41
So - I took my new Strom in for the recall and thought they might as well fit some heated grips for me whilst the tank was off. £140 later and this is how it was given back to me!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tvioMAMvqQ

Look at the state of the throttle cable!
1. Looks stupid and upside down
2. Hits the hand guard every time I let off the throttle
3. Doesn't rest in the fully off position as the wire is held by the hand guard
4.Not enough slack left for me to open the throttle fully without it pulling on the grip cable.

When I complained about it, the "technician" came up and said - well its fine, it would hit the tank otherwise if I put it the right way (I have risers so it would clear the tank by about 3 inches...  :shock:) and they work...after 10 mins of "discussion",they tried to take it off and put it the right way but the grip glue had stuck and they couldn't do it without damaging the throttle tube so now it has to go back for a new throttle tube and grip to be refitted. I was also told by the parts bloke that "another "technician" said that's the way they would fit it too.
Well...I won't be going back to this "main dealer" again.

OR.....am I wrong and this is an acceptable way to fit heated grips?
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: tallpaul on March 29, 2019, 06:30:25
Video link not working just now. Who is the dealer?
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: Hugo Magnus on March 29, 2019, 07:23:45
My blood boils for you.
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: MartinW on March 29, 2019, 07:26:29
Name them.

By not doing so it throws suspicion on every dealer in the area.
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: Brockett on March 29, 2019, 08:03:00
I can't see your video, but from what you write I would say yes you are right to make a fuss and insist they do it properly.
If they don't fix it to your satisfaction you should take it up with Suzuki GB.
If you don't want to name names just reveal their post code.

Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: wurzel on March 29, 2019, 10:52:00
That does sound very wrong, just name them, see if you can get your video up.
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: NTBooth on March 29, 2019, 12:45:09
Sorry folks. Not sure why The video isn't working! It's just a YouTube one I uploaded.
I will try again!

The dealer is in Rochdale.
You would think I had learned my lesson...it went for it's second service last year, after setting off I thought "this feels a bit funny...what's that clicking noise" :shrug:

Drove another few mins to see if it would settle down but it didn't change. Pulled over got off the bike and had a look.
They'd only left the f*****g HT lead disconnected from the front cylinder!!!!! (Couldn't just pop it back on as I'm sure many of you know, it's in a reet awkward bloody place behind the radiator). Rode it back, low and behold the mechanic had buggered off home!!!

Luckily a man with very bendy arms managed to get it back on.  :groan: :icon_exclaim:
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: NTBooth on March 29, 2019, 12:48:51
Oh...and a two month wait(or was it 3?) for a restricted ECU when I first bought it, they gave me a free service for that though so I didn't mind at the time.
Thinking back, I'm not particularly convinced the service would have been done well anyway haha!

OH!! AND....I forgot to mention it took them 4 hours to do the recall work and fit the grips when I was told 45 mins for each.  ###
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: NTBooth on March 29, 2019, 12:51:48
Attempt number 2.
I think I had the video set to private.

https://youtu.be/1tvioMAMvqQ
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: tallpaul on March 29, 2019, 12:55:31
Sounds like Robinson's...
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: NTBooth on March 29, 2019, 12:57:36
Quote removed

A very accurate guess which I will neither CONFIRM nor deny.  :)
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: tallpaul on March 29, 2019, 12:59:46
Sadly not the place it used to be.
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: NTBooth on March 29, 2019, 13:05:21
Yep, I'm fed up with the chaps around here. Only place left I trust is shorrocks in Preston! (Good lot they are!) But I've not been there in about 18 months so it might have changed.

I wonder if Bolton kawasaki/Suzuki is Any better? :shrug:
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: kwackboy on March 29, 2019, 13:07:32
 :shock:
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: NTBooth on March 29, 2019, 13:09:17
Looks like the video link is working judging by that reaction kwackboy, do you like the bit of tape wrapped round it too?  lol lol
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: kwackboy on March 29, 2019, 13:35:23
It's always hard routing heated grip wires,  especially on the throttle side with hand guards.
I would have routed the wires underneath and left slack for the throttle movement.
Take it back and throw a few swear words at them.  :icon_batterup:
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: TLPower on March 29, 2019, 14:11:25
I really expected more from you kwackboy, the "Technician" is clearly an early adopter for the speed limiter regulations for 2021.

Cut your losses Nathan take it to the Giant in Whitworth, pay him in pies and gravy.
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: kwackboy on March 29, 2019, 15:02:03
Good point TL , didn't think of that .  :crazy:
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: SuzukiSte on March 29, 2019, 15:47:22
@NTBooth the best Suzuki dealer is Road and Race in Hyde great lads and a top mechanic been there with the V-Strom and was a great service. :thumb:
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: tallpaul on March 29, 2019, 16:20:10
The official Oxford YouTube video shows the grip position in the pic below as the rest point when the throttle is closed. Not sure how that woukd work out with hand guards though...
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: Holmsey on March 29, 2019, 17:43:29
:shock:

I hope when you fit mine it will be done properly  :whistle:
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: Ianmc on March 29, 2019, 18:31:41
Works absolutely fine with my hand guards,I have fitted a few sets now.The secret is,make sure everything fits spot on without glue,mark the correct position with a pencil and then apply the glue and fit the grip to the pencil mark then LEAVE THEM WHERE THEY ARE UNTIL THE GLUE HAS SET.
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: Willie Fawcett on March 30, 2019, 21:08:37
This is how I installed my grips 25000 miles ago & they have worked perfectly .
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: kwackboy on March 30, 2019, 22:05:53
I hope when you fit mine it will be done properly  :whistle:
Your police discount will reflect on my level of workmanship ..
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: TLPower on March 31, 2019, 06:27:50
I thought as much, shady dealings in the smoke...

Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: Rusty Nuts on March 31, 2019, 07:38:35
Completely unacceptable!  :shock:  Who the hell shoots video in vertical/portrait ?  :grin:
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: NTBooth on April 01, 2019, 16:10:13
cheers suzukiste - ill head over that way and check them out, I drive through hyde every day to work.

I've had heated grips on every one of my bikes and had hanguards on all but 1 of them. No issues with fitment at all - their excuse was, and is bullshit.
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: Holmsey on April 01, 2019, 18:55:38
Your police discount will reflect on my level of workmanship ..

Your speeding ticket has been misplaced....  :shrug:
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: Holmsey on April 01, 2019, 18:56:16

 :shock:
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: kwackboy on April 01, 2019, 19:28:03
Which one ?  lol.
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: pichulec on April 01, 2019, 20:08:20
This is how I fitted mine. That's how it should be done. Muppets working there...

(https://I.imgur.com/IeEpwIq.jpg)
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: Darreng586 on April 11, 2019, 21:00:28
What was the Recall for ?  :obscene-drinkingchug:
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: NTBooth on April 13, 2019, 06:17:12
recall was for an o-ring on the fuel pump apparently.

Bit of an update, after taking it back in it was promptly sorted.

Still not 100% happy with it though as the way they have positioned it means the cable now sits in front of the starter switch and I have to move the grip to press it. A minor issue.
The control box is on the right side and I would have preferred the left.

These above are issues that I can live with and to me are not worth letting them touch my bike again for.
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: pichulec on April 14, 2019, 20:26:00
Look at my cable, that's how it should be fitted. My cable doesn't obstruct the starter switch at all.
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: Rusty Nuts on April 14, 2019, 20:45:34
Yes, that is how it should be.  Not obscuring anything, not fouling on anything, not restricting the range of throttle movement. Mine is like that, with handguards also.
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: Asmith61 on April 14, 2019, 20:57:51
Yes and mine too no problems at all  :thumb:
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: NTBooth on April 16, 2019, 09:14:02
Your replies make it seem as though I don't already know this...
I'm well aware of how they're supposed to be fitted!
 :angry-tappingfoot:

At this point though, I can't tell if its incompetence or done on purpose to annoy me and like I said, I have no intention of letting them ever touch my bike again
:dl_soapbox: :dl_soapbox: :dl_soapbox:
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: Rusty Nuts on April 16, 2019, 09:59:03
I wasn't explaining , Niall, just agreeing with you. ( Mind you, the thread title was a question.  :whistle:  )
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: NTBooth on April 16, 2019, 10:20:53
you're a question  :neen:
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: NTBooth on April 16, 2019, 10:22:08
I see your point, Maybe I should have gone for different punctuation (!) Next time.  :grin:
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: daveywww on April 19, 2019, 16:02:25
I bought my vstrom from there, and found them to be OK really. I guess it’s just down to individual technicians, their ability, mood and attitude. Not a great experience for you 👎
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: bako on April 27, 2019, 00:40:54
Easiest way to unstick the glue. Use a thin screw driver to to ease the grip up a little and spray WD40 in the gap, leave for a min the work the grip off applying more WD as required.
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: Brockett on April 27, 2019, 08:51:24
Maybe the root of this problem is the Training, skill and supervision of the mechanic. To use the word "Technician" is to infer some sort of higher education on the subject. Some years ago a South African racer told me that in S.A. a person needed to be trained and have certificates before they are allowed to work on any vehicle whereas in the UK anybody with a boiler suit can work on your brakes and steering. Has it changed? 
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: Fat Rat on April 27, 2019, 09:46:57
I think the Boiler Suit is now optional.
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: kwackboy on April 27, 2019, 10:21:59
The problem with college and getting certificates is they mean bugger all.
In my trade college can't pass on valuable info and ways on how to fix lots of problems that bikes suffer from and only being in a full working environment under decent supervision would you learn the skills needed.
You would certainly not learn how to apply heated grips in college or where to wire them into lots of different bikes, that's for sure.

As for wearing a boiler suit .... I don't , they chafe my crutch when I reach up ..
Title: Re: Unacceptable?
Post by: TLPower on April 27, 2019, 16:37:25
I completed a 4 year vehicle technicians apprenticeship in the late 70's, early 80's. We did a week at work followed by a week at Tech. Our group were proper Tw*ts ripping the p*ss out of the "craft" apprentices who only did day release.

We were paid more of a pittance than them (in the same company) and we had better boiler suits. :thumb: