Suzuki V-Strom (VStrom) Owners Club DL250, DL650, DL1000 & DL1050
Preferred Suppliers => Preferred Suppliers => Cymarc Bike Parts => Topic started by: rodders1969 on July 10, 2014, 09:25:33
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Popped over to Sunny Scunthorpe on Wednesday for one of Mark's Gear change enhancer's. What a top Bloke, to say he is running a full time business as well. The communication prior to going over was second to none (think that's Shelley's department) and Mark even fitted it for me. Although there was more blood than sweat I might add so apologies for the gash on the head mark. The enhancer/spacer worked perfectly and was noticeable straihght away even in the car park. Ordered the top box adapter plate as well while I was there. Top service by Mark and Shelley, highly recommended.
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I saw the picture on facebook :) glad you like it
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Very kind comments and fab feedback - thanks so much. So pleased you are happy with it. Mark's 'war wound' is healing nicely - he fly's around like a loon most the time so it was bound to happen...I keep telling him to slow down but I don't think he knows how - even when it comes to drinking wine he thinks he's in a competition (even when he's drinking on his own) <!-- s:lol: -->lol<!-- s:lol: -->
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Can someone explain me how this thing exactly works, and what is the difference between before and after?
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http://www.cymarcbikeparts.co.uk/Suzuki-v-strom-and-dl-1000-gear-change-enhancer-great-bit-of-kit-amazing-results-fits-latest-2014-models-too-21-p.asp
http://www.cymarcbikeparts.co.uk/Suzuki-v-strom-gear-change-enhancer-review-11-c.asp
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Thanks for the links Mick,but I would like to know HOW does it work ? Be as technical as you like.Has anyone got one fitted in the East Midlands ?
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Ian, the theory is that the alignment is a few millimeters out at the back end, this corrects that and makes the chain true (aligns the sprockets) so the gear change is smoother.
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Ordered :)
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First thing I ordered for the bike. Noticed the difference as soon as it was fitted and it's been on now for many a year. It seems to make the rear sprocket line up perfectly with the front one and you get a smooth transition of the chain.
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Thanks for that FR,I did suspect that was what the theory was.Just cannot believe that Suzuki would make a basic engineering cockup like that.So theoretically should it make chains and sprockets last longer.When I have the wheels out for tyres next time I might have a go at running a laser along the rear sprocket and see how the front lines up.If anyone has one of these prior to fitting it would be nice to know how thick the shim is,looks about 2mm at a guess.As an afterthought does it make the transmission any quieter,??
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Can you address this topic cymarc? http://www.stromtrooper.com/dl1000a-2014-2016/388297-gear-changer-enhancer.html#/topics/388297?page=1 (http://www.stromtrooper.com/dl1000a-2014-2016/388297-gear-changer-enhancer.html#/topics/388297?page=1)
According to this topic. sprocket spacer you've made pushing sprocket 2mm in wrong direction. I'm thinking about return, still havent fitted
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According to a rival supplier you mean. There are far more positive reviews from real users in the UK. Cymarc makes quality gear using ridiculously over specified machinery. Perhaps do a bit more research before you panic?
I happen to know Mark had a donor DL1000 in when he made this, the owner was delighted with the immediate improvement.
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I don't really know who I should believe, because I read few topics in 4 different forums and they claim the same thing, that sprocket should be 2mm in not out...
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Not wanting to hijack this as I have no idea about the part mentioned but I would be more than willing to provide a character reference for Mark at Cymarc and as my bike was used to develop the new range of Africa Twin parts, I am well placed to give a 5 star rating on the quality of the products he makes. My bike currently has 4 of his products fitted and they are all excellent. His site and Facebook page are also full of positive customer feedback too.
Hope this helps.
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:text-goodpost: Cymarc parts are well made.
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Undoubtedly Cymarc gear is very well made. I've got some of their kit on my bike. Also, mine's a 650 so the alignment issue doesn't apply to my model.
But... as a mechanical engineering technician in my previous life, I find myself fascinated as to how one apparent problem can look to have two seemingly opposed solutions, and users of both are happy with the results of their modifications.
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The human mind is a mysterious thing. :shock:
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I don't know what to do now, return it or use it... I have infamous clank when I shift from 1st to 2nd....
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Quote from the Cymarc site re the adapter...............
"The result of fitting my part is quite amazing and if you do not have a distinct improvement then I offer an unconditional lifetime money back promise."
What can you lose, fit it, if it don't work for you send it back!
Maybe a phone call to them to confirm if you want ................
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Just give it a go. You have bought it already, you may as well try it.
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Having been stood in the Mancave workshop whilst Mark has received a call of concern then I can assure you that the level of customer service is way beyond what I would have offered had I been dealing with the call. I can imagine the caller walked away very happy.
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I don't know what to do now, return it or use it... I have infamous clank when I shift from 1st to 2nd....
Hi fella, I can`t really comment on what other (competitors) may say but they can be forgiven for acting in their better interests in a way that might perhaps not be as professional as we may like. Regarding other products that do the same thing I am sure, and would hope, that they are all made equally as good and I strongly recommend anyone else`s product for any of us (or you) to try! I`m always keen to praise what other people (Companies) may make :thumb:
Regarding my product I would ask you not to put any credence to what I may say (I`m a drunk, got dark hobbies involving donkeys :thumb: and I could be saying b*ollocks) but I would draw your attention to what the lads say, they ain`t paid by me and give a very valuable and honest view of what I do and my stuff. Yes, there`s a review on the product on my site from a DL1000 user but once again its not forced to be true (but it is) so I would suggest that you kindly consider what the lads are saying and be guided by them.
If you decide to give it a go and it don't work then be assured there`s a full refund there waiting for you on its safe return. If you wish to travel to see me, I`ll fit it (with my compliments) and if it fails to work then I`ll take it off, refund you and give you a box of beer for your troubles. Remember, I`m a biker first and foremost!
I`m sorry that you have `the clunk` in the first place but hopefully with either mine or somebody else`s product you can get it sorted eh?
Ride safe, I like donkeys :)
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Well other then the fear that fitting it will instantly transport you through a worm hole into another and less benign universe where this mans guarantee doesn't stand up....what the hell have you got to lose? Use up the half an hour of your life you were going to use doing nowt and get the bugger fitted. :eusa-doh:
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Pichulec, if it was me I'd have fitted it by now. The Internet can not tell you how your bike will feel or sound. Bolt the bugger on, and make your own mind up. You've nothing whatsoever to lose.
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Fit it and then let us know if it works. My 14 Veek will clunk 1st to 2nd quite badly and some of the other gears to if I rush it.
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I am pretty sure the alleged misalignment is only present on the Vee.
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Just a clunky gearbox then, maybe picked up from BMW along with the beak! lol
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Yeah, beemer crap, you would not catch me riding any of that germanic `anus of the devil` rubbish! Us girls have got to stick together and ride our stroms :fix:
Ah, I didn't think that through.................
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lol
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Fitted today, will see how it is.
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:thumb:
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:eusa-doh:
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From my first observations it is much better, clunk is practically gone, but few times happened to me to to shift from 1st to neutral instead 2nd... Weird
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When did you last change the oil?
On my 650 (glee) when I get to 3000 + miles that's the sort of 'problem' I can get. It's not bad but 1st, 2nd & neutral start to get awkward at standstill.
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I changed oil about 1000 miles ago.
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So you're not sending it back then :smirk: It's always good advice to take no notice of Americans, they rarely have anything interesting to say. When they do speak, it is generally loud, contains irritating wooping noises and is mainly unintelligible.
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Will see after more riding but so far so good.
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:thumb:
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The loud, annoying, unintelligible whooping noises emanate from one "American" ..... I'm not sure it's fair to tar them all with the same brush! Interesting that Trump seems to have failed to carry his defence(sic) department with him over Syria ????
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Will see after more riding but so far so good. :thumb:
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Will see after more riding but so far so good.
Am really pleased that there is some(what) of an improvement. I could not figure out why one of our American Cousins had such a derogatory view of my product until I a) followed a link to see that he had a business making Strom parts and b) I read Fat Rats observations.
Then it all fell into place.
to be honest got a bit of a `fatty` on with the `DO NOT USE CYMARC GEAR CHANGE ENHANCER` - very funny.
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From my first observations it is much better, clunk is practically gone, but few times happened to me to to shift from 1st to neutral instead 2nd... Weird
Who would have thought!
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Yeah, when I read this bit about "DO NOT USE CYMARC GEAR CHANGE ENHANCER" I have to say I got a bit worried, that is why I posted in this topic. But now, with every ride I am getting confidence that, this bloke was saying bullshit :D
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To be fair, it`s what people do. I try to take a different line by praising other manufacturers rather than slagging them off - this bloke probably DOES know what he is talking about :bow-blue: but he makes himself look an arse by putting stuff like DO NOT USE CYMARC GEAR CHANGE ENHANCER which I do find funny (don't know why, I`m very well balanced!) - I`d like to be his best mate, he sounds a right character and I`m sure I`d have some right giggles with him.
Anyhoo, putting this secondary stuff to one side the MOST important thing out of all of this is that (we hope) the part improves your bike, seemingly it has (well spank me till I`m rosy red, my USA cousin, no one is more shocked than meee :)) so job done :thumb:
If, for any reason as yet unrevealed to me, it `stops` working (which I don't think it will) the same applies - full refund, no questions asked AND a box of beer for your troubles
Ride safe, I`m pleased it works for you as I am sure we all are
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Finally got around to fitting this, was waiting on a tyre change to do both together.
Works a treat, definitely a smoother gear change, still clunks a bit especially first to second but a good improvement I think.
Just the clutch to sort now over winter if I keep it.