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Offline Tel

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Going camping
« on: May 11, 2023, 18:34:47 »
No posts since June 2022 so thought I would put something together.  The last item was a khyam tent for sale, I’ve had one for 21 years and it’s still OK, have bought a new one a biker plus se which I am using for the first time at the end of may, off to France with some pals.  The biker plus is a lot taller than my old biker tent which is easier to get dressed in and kinder to my old back, 71 now so hope I’m still around when this tent is 21 years old. I’ll put a review of the new tent when I return

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Re: Going camping
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2023, 21:55:49 »
 I enjoy moto camping. As for tents, I've had a few. Started out with a Banshee 200 with a gear store but that was too small. Then I resurrected an old family tent and ditched one of the sleeping compartments so I could have a decent vestibule for cooking etc, but that leaked and one of the poles broke in the wind. Last year I splashed out on a Lone Rider Mototent and am very pleased with it. OK, its not cheap but the quality and features are amazing. Plenty of doors, room, and height. I can't fault it. It weighs around 5.5kg and straps to my rear seat just fine. The photo  is of my recent trip to the Scottish borders.

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Re: Going camping
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2023, 06:45:01 »
I only started moto camping a couple of years ago and went small and cheap with a Eurohike Backpacker DLX2 as it was light and big enough for me and my gear.

I did an overnight to Cornwall just to check out all my gear, made the relevant changes and then did a week in Scotland then later in the year another week in Wales (yes, including a night at the Bikers Campsite). The DLX2 is compact easy to put up and pack away but a little bit short in the sleeping compartment for me at just over 6' 1" tall and although I've never had any ingress, I worry slightly about my feet pushing the inner tent against the outer flysheet on a wet night.

I also have a Wild Country Zephyros (who comes up with these names?) which my wife bought me as a present when I was planning on cycle touring, which I still want to do. Earlier this week I used it for a couple of nights in the Lake District. It's a nice little tent, but it's a bit complicated to put up and slow to take down and although there is plenty of room to sleep, sitting up is almost impossible and getting in and out of the sde opening is just a b*gger... well it is for a 64 year old anyway.

I have another Scottish trip coming up, so following some advice from a YouTube traveller I watch I have recently bought a three man dome tent. A Highlander Birch 3. I bought it s/h, used once from Ebay and for the £35 I paid for it I am happy. If however I had paid the £100 and something new price I think I would be a little disappointed as it is a very basic inner tent with glassfibre poles and a separate fly. The tent has loads of room but the vestibule is small, so most of my gear will be stored in the tent rather than outside which is where the DLX2 is the winner so far.

I have looked at much more expensive tents, biker specific or otherwise,  but for the few weeks a year of UK camping that I do it's hard to justify the cost, although I'm always happy to be convinced otherwise.
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Re: Going camping
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2023, 09:21:16 »
We do a fair bit of camping on bikes but also in the car to go mountain biking and walking. I had a small 3 man dome for years which I used solo but changed once it was 2 of us.
I got sick of getting dressed sat down, lying on your arse shuffling your jeans up one rung at a time is just so undignified, so I bought a Vango Omega 350.
Been using it a few years now and I love it. Plenty of space for kit storage and still only 3 poles and under 10 minutes to put up. I have the additional ground sheet though as these modern super thin integrated ones don't handle waterlogged moss very well. Only drawback is remembering to knock the roof dry before opening the doors after a very wet night.
I love that the roll size is within the pannier width so they can be accessed without removing the tent and the diameter means it serves as a stop for the OEM top box lid which opens too far and knackers it's tethers if not treated with care.

Offline Steve T

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Re: Going camping
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2023, 09:58:35 »
Its a thumbs up from me for the Vango Omega 3 as well  :thumb:
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Re: Going camping
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2023, 11:24:27 »

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Re: Going camping
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2023, 12:16:47 »
I used to sell tents... in a bike dealership. We sold Coleman and Vango tents.

The Vango tent quality was higher, but so was the price tag.
Vango tend to do some budget tents that a good for the money, skip over the middle range and go straight to higher priced, lightweight back packing tents and massive family tents.

Coleman did quite a varied range but the cheaper options were a bit flimsy.
Quite a few of their tents are the same design with different colours and specs.

That Coleman Kobuk Valley 3 is a decent spec, 4500 hydrostatic head, I wouldn't bother with anything less than 3000.
Width is going to be snug for 3, you'd want 2m+ width rather than 1.8m, but 1.8m is good for 2 plus a couple of bags, clothes ect.
The porch is useable, but most of the space is effectively the doorway, but keep everything to the sides and leave the boots and coats in the middle.
I was looking at them a while ago when my daughter was first born as a tent for a couple of nights for 2 adults and a little one but I found a discontinued Vango Gamma 300 cheap.

2 major things to look at:
Pack size - anything over 48-50cm will cause issues trying to get it in hard boxes, meaning you'll need a roll bag on the back seat.
Weight - not so much of an issue on the bike as when you're back packing, but everything adds up.

Proper backpacking tents tend to be the best way to go as the smaller pack size and shorter aluminium poles make them more suited to moto camping.

I have a the old Vango Turini which very similar to the lone rider... these tents are big and lightweight, but tent to be fragile and catch the wind.
I've stopped using mine as I had to replace all the poles due to metal fatigue. When my daughter is old enough to come away in the bike with me I'll likely go back to using it.

My go to tent is the Vango Banshee 300, a very low tent, I can just about sit up in it, but small pack size and weight.
There is also the Vango Pulsar 300+ which I have the older smaller model (Spriit 200+) good porch size, enough head height to sit up, (300+ is taller) and decent sized sleeping area. But it's quite pricey.

I have a collection of tents and they get used for different reasons.

The best addition you can use is a tarp, like Vango Trek Tarp, gives shelter with minimal weight to carry. Good for cooking in the rain or just a bit of shade in needed.

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Re: Going camping
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2023, 21:37:13 »
I now use a Robens boulder 3 for the odd night away or Vango Galaxy 300 for more than a night. I do need to split the Vango up though as it doesn’t fit in any of my cases.

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Re: Going camping
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2023, 22:50:50 »
Vango get a big  :thumb: from me, I've used them when moutaineering and now use a Cairngorm 100 when travelling solo. Extremely small and lightweight, but I like to leave space for more esssential things like beer.  :obscene-drinkingchug: