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Michelin Road 6 Tyre pressure ?
« on: June 18, 2025, 00:22:52 »
O.k so I`ve just changed from the OE Bridgestone Battlax tyres on my 2020 Wee.
Unlike a lot of people I actually though they were o.k.
After 7300 miles the back still had plenty of tread left and I thought it was o.k for another couple of thousand miles at least. But the front was down to approx 1.5 mm so needed changing as I`m doing a Europe trip in a few weeks time. Never had a front tyre wear out faster than a rear before !
 
Changed both tyres for Road 6`s which appear to have good write ups on most forums. I don't go off road so went for a road tyre.

Sooooooo the pressures on the Bridgestone`s was 33F & 36R

What shall I run on the Road 6`s ?  What is on the rear chainguard (33F & 36R) or the more common 36F 42R ?

Most of my bikes over the years have all had 36F 42R (this is what I`ve run for years on my other bike, a ZX9R.)

What say you ?

I`ve not checked what pressure the tyre fitters have put in em as yet as only just had em fitted             

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Re: Michelin Road 6 Tyre pressure ?
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2025, 04:40:27 »
I would start with the std 33/36 as in the manual. Pays to check too, most Strom uninitiated tyre fitters will go with 36/42 .
Some will say 36/42 is a std......tell that to Suzuki.
And Honda....who recommend 22/22 psi on the 250 rally ( yes , that is the solo road recommendation in the manual  :shock: ). 36/42 would be awful.

Get a feel for it while scrubbing in, careful now.
Then ..MAYBE.. start with a couple of psi less in the front and ride it for a tank full to compare . Changes , unless downright dangerous or you are Rossi  :icon_wink: , can take a while to get a feel for.
Favourite psi is like favourite tyre...everyone is different , if it works for you..it works.. and costs nowt but time :shrug:

I have Road 6s on my '22 and love them. I used them at 33/36 at first and was happy.
Then had Nitron suspension fitted front and back and found the front then preferred 30 psi... :shrug:
Got 17,000 ish miles  ( as I recall ) out of the first road 6 front, so no problems there at 30 psi and am nearly as quick over the ground in the wet as the dry.
Ace tyres. :thumb:

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Re: Michelin Road 6 Tyre pressure ?
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2025, 06:05:08 »
I had the same bike and same tyres and 36/42 was best for me. Bike felt good, the tyres warmed up quick and the tyre held the road like glue in the dry you couldn't out ride it the bike would touch down first before the tyre would let go and it was great in the rain and on cold winter roads too.

I use the same pressure in my V-Strom 1000 with Tourance tyres, works a treat.  :thumb:

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Re: Michelin Road 6 Tyre pressure ?
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2025, 07:42:33 »
Worth looking at https://www.michelin.co.uk/motorbike/advice-motorbike/tyre-care/motorcycle-tyre-pressure-guide

Whilst Nigel makes a good point, worth remembering that tyre pressures could be looked at in the event of an insurance claim, and if deemed to be 'under inflated' could impact any claim.

I'm running 36/42 on mine as I think that's what Michelin recommended.

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Re: Michelin Road 6 Tyre pressure ?
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2025, 07:49:36 »
I also fitted the Road 6s on my 2021 Wee. I have the front at 30 psi and the rear at 35 psi. So far so good. I haven't done too many miles yet so I don't know how tyre life will be affected, but they do stick very well and the ride is comfy.

I had them at 33/36 while it was colder outside and I wasn't leaning the bike too much, but since it warmed up and I started doing some curvy roads, I dropped the pressure a little bit. But, I ride alone and the bike does not have sidecases so it is not loaded too much.

Try it out and you will find the ballance between grip and longevity. On the other hand they are quite expensive, so it might be worth having them at higher pressure, and riding slower but for longer :D

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Re: Michelin Road 6 Tyre pressure ?
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2025, 07:56:54 »
UK_Vstrom650 has a good point, that I can't for definite give an answer to..
But if the owners manual says something different to the tyre makers.....who LEGALY  ( terms like what would a "reasonable"  person do and the "average" rider get used a lot in these circumstances ) is in the right.....Even given a different tyre from std , pointing to the manual as guidance " should " be enough  :shrug:
But then a different tyre from std.....how legal is that ?
And as far as I know there is no legal framework to require certified gauges are  always used....that alone will be a 3/4 psi difference in some cases.
Or riding 2 up at higher rear psi...do you lower it back to solo psi to pop to the garage to fill up when on your own?
How many times do you check the psi difference on the maybe 4 different makes of tyre on the car to verify it is right?
Plus tubeless tyres can " burp " when hit hard as in a crash , losing psi at the rim. Bloody minefield.....
I don't know......I HATE lawyers.... :grin:

But any legal eagles out there who deal with this stuff , please chime in , some that ride are not ALL bad  :icon_wink: , and I am genuinely curious to know how we stand ?

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Re: Michelin Road 6 Tyre pressure ?
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2025, 09:43:14 »
This has been posted before, I have copied and pasted. It was originally copied from the MCN. If you go through the section of this forum where you posted the question you will find lots of interesting reading.  :thumb:

It's important to be pumped

Tyre pressures are a crucial factor in determining how your bike handles and how quickly you wear out your (not exactly cheap) tyres.
There are lots of myths and misconceptions about what pressures you should run in the wet, on track days or when you're loaded with luggage. Usually you'll find someone propping up the bar who knows better than the manufacturers' recommendations. To find out how close they are to being right we talked to a genuine expert - a man who should know tyres if anyone does.

Leo Smith spent years as chief development tester at Avon tyres. He is now motorcycle product manager. He said: "We probably get asked more about tyre pressures than about any other aspect of a tyre”. There's so much bad information kicking about that people can't separate the truth from fiction."

Smith says that is largely the fault of tyre companies themselves. Several years ago, different tyre companies recommended different pressures for different tyres and different bikes. But around 10 years ago, a decision was reached between the companies to standardise pressures so that most bikes can run on the same no matter what tyres they're on. That standard is 36psi at the front and 42psi at the rear.

There are some exceptions, like some 400cc grey imports which run 29psi at the front and 36psi at the rear. Another notable exception is the Kawasaki ZX-12R - which is meant to run 42 front and rear. But if you've got a modern, mainstream bike, chances are you should be running the 36/42 standard.

That 42 figure in particular will have a lot of the gentlemen at the bar shaking their heads. But it is not a figure chosen at random. Pressures determine how your tyres deflect. The lower the pressure, the more the tyre will flex. That may make for a comfortable ride when you're cruising in a straight line, but the tyre will flex too fast at speed and make your bike unstable. The bike will feel vague going into turns and feel like it's going to tip into the corner suddenly. This is because the tyre isn't "strong" enough and it's literally buckling under you.

The bike will also feel wallowy through turns and it'll weave under acceleration. Conversely, if you over-inflate a tyre, the flex will be slower but that will make your bike more stable at high speeds. The ride comfort and the tyre's ability to absorb shocks will be lost and your wrists and backside will take the brunt of it. The bike will feel so harsh that many people will think they have a suspension problem.

Cornering won't feel as bad as when pressure is too low, but you will again lose feel and feedback from the tyres. For example, if you ride over a stone, an over-inflated tyre cannot absorb it and the tyre breaks contact with the road. Smith says the classic myth about tyre pressures is that you deflate them for wet-weather riding. He says most grip comes from the tyre's compound and the contact patch - and the shape of the tyre where it contacts the road is everything.



Tread patterns stop water from building up under the tyres - which could cause a bike to aquaplane. Smith says: "A good front tyre chucks enough water out of the way to enable the rear to get the power down. If you reduce the tyre pressure, the tread becomes compressed so it can't clear as much water." If anything, Smith recommends you increase the rear tyre by 2-3psi in the wet but leave the front as it is.

Another widely held misconception is that the psi recommendations are the maximum the tyre can take. They're not. The figure only tells at what pressures the tyres were tested at for all-round use. You could actually safely inflate a type up to around 50psi if you really wanted to, although it wouldn't do you much good.

But the biggest area for debate has to be track days. If you've ever been to one it's almost certain someone has told you you'll be best off reducing your tyre pressures. You get more grip that way, they tell you. Smith has radically different advice.
You should leave them alone, he says. "Racing tyres are of a totally different construction and stiffness to road tyres so they need less pressure to maintain the carcass shape. That's where the rumours and bad advice comes from. "If you drop the psi in road tyres you will get more movement in the tread pattern. They will heat up too much and that will eat into tyre wear. You'll almost certainly ruin a set in a day without gaining any advantage in grip."

Smith says he's known people to drop their rear tyre to just 22psi when heading for the track. His advice is to leave your tyres alone, saying a good tyre at standard pressures will give more grip than you need on a track day because you almost certainly won't be
going as fast or for as long as racers. Track surfaces offer much better grip than the road, too - another reason for leaving your tyre pressures the same for the ride to the track as for the ride around it.

Many people also ask the experts at Avon if they should increase psi to take pillion passengers. Again there's no need. The manufacturers' agreed pressures of 36/42 were arrived at after testing with pillions, luggage, cold tyres and every other combination you could think of.
One of the few cases when Smith does recommend you change your pressures is when your tyres wear. A worn tyre has lost a lot of its strength as the shape and flexibility levels have changed. That means it will handle differently to a new tyre. Try increasing the tyres by 2psi when you're down to around 40 per cent tread depth. It will only make a marginal difference, but it should improve your bike's handling a bit.

You may not have to keep changing your tyre pressures, but you do have to maintain them. Smith recommends that you check them once a week as an absolute minimum but to be extra safe, you should really check them every day because a tyre can change by as much as 3psi on its own just because of changes in the weather.
You should always measure your tyre pressures when they are cold. A few bikes are now coming with tyre pressure gauges in their under-saddle tool kits. If you haven't got one it's worth buying one. They only cost a few quid and take up about as much room as a pen. Forecourt gauges are notoriously inaccurate.

Scanned and re-printed in total from an article in MCN.  :thumb:
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Re: Michelin Road 6 Tyre pressure ?
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2025, 10:05:13 »
Thanks for reposting that Doc  :thumb:
Though Avon tyres have been sh*t for years ..so.....?..... :stirpot:

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Re: Michelin Road 6 Tyre pressure ?
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2025, 10:06:57 »
Although this is at best anecdotal since I'm neither a quick nor overly talented rider but;
Bike and manual for the Vee say 36/36 solo but 36/41 loaded. (I weigh 94kg which is probably equal to 2 x 90s Japanese test riders anyway)
Michelin say 36/42 for my tyre/bike combination.
All new big Stroms say 36/42 regardless of load.
I've switched to 36/42 and I do think the bike handles a bit better, seems less vague at the rear end and turns in nice and positively whilst also not doing the very fine weave at speed. It doesn't hurt to experiment within a sensible range I don't think.

I guess the tyre manufacturer knows the pressure they want for a given carcass deflection but then the bike manufacturer knows the weight and weight distribution of their machine so the recommendations are never going to be perfect since neither party has all the information, and that's before you go in to the variation of rider weight which can be a significant portion of the overall package weight.
I went with the newer figure from the newer Stroms since that seems like updated info based on the 'same' bike but with the more modern rubber. Happy hunting, small adjustments and then ride the same route in the same conditions  :thumb:

* Make sure your suspension sag is set correctly first as well. There's no point in chasing a nice ride feel from tyre pressure if your preload/rebound are a mile off whack.

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Re: Michelin Road 6 Tyre pressure ?
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2025, 10:10:12 »
Plus one on the sag, if that is not right everything else is guess work.

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Re: Michelin Road 6 Tyre pressure ?
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2025, 17:47:47 »
 :ty:for the replies. Food for thought. Not checked em yet as too bloody warm !

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Re: Michelin Road 6 Tyre pressure ?
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2025, 20:24:28 »
Checked what pressure the tyre place put in an they had them at 36/42

Have now done approx 1500 miles on em through England, France, Belgium & Germany.

Better handling than the Battleaxes. Pleased with them.

See how long they last !   

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Re: Michelin Road 6 Tyre pressure ?
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2025, 08:41:58 »
Hi, I have the Battleaxe Adventure 40 on my bike at the moment and the odd thing was when I had the SV at Suzuki pressures 33/36 I never felt confident on the slip roads, usually the 62 onto M6 so 50mph was all I could do but on the Strom I saw 62mph easily. I checked my tyre pressures this morning and the dealer had set them at 36/42 so maybe that's what helped feel more confidence?.

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Re: Michelin Road 6 Tyre pressure ?
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2025, 22:07:20 »
It's pretty simple. "The tyre pressure should be what the manufacturer recommends"... these are the very words from a person I know who develops tyres for Pirelli. Only when you get into racing does this factor vary.