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Oily Rag - Dedicated to Pat, Greywolf. 26/06/45 - 04/06/18 => Accessories and After Market items => Topic started by: biglad on October 15, 2015, 14:01:01
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Hi- I've just ordered these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2PCS-125W-Motorcycle-Motorbike-CREE-U5-LED-Driving-Head-Spot-Light-Headlight-UK-/181895352831?hash=item2a59ced1ff (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2PCS-125W-Motorcycle-Motorbike-CREE-U5-LED-Driving-Head-Spot-Light-Headlight-UK-/181895352831?hash=item2a59ced1ff) and wondered the best way of wiring them in..
Am I best to get a wiring harness ...like this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Complete-Fog-Spot-Light-Wiring-Loom-Harness-Switch-Kit-for-Suzuki-Motorcycles-/400877875897?hash=item5d562ef2b9 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Complete-Fog-Spot-Light-Wiring-Loom-Harness-Switch-Kit-for-Suzuki-Motorcycles-/400877875897?hash=item5d562ef2b9) or is there a better way?
I'm going to be using one of bigpie's aux fuse boxes for these (plus the Dr Bike handguards I've ordered at the same time too...
Cheers
Ben
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No need to get the harness, I would just get a switch to wire inline to the aux fuse box so you can change modes more easily or have them off if you prefer.
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I think with those, you can just wire to the fusebox if you want them in the first mode all the time as when the bike is switched on they'll go to the first mode each time.
I'm tempted to get a set my self to play with and see if they're easy to disable the other modes.
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I'll hold fire buying anything else till the fuse box comes then and see what's what. I have no interest in the flashing so first mode is fine by me. Worst case I get an inline switch if needed.
Bigpie- let me know how much I owe you and where to paypal it to and I can fix that up when you're good to go.
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You can disable the flashing and low beam as follows:
https://youtu.be/KQIRV1y-Q6E
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The lamps came today and they seem decent however...
The base doesn't swivel, and I can't see a way to make it move, so I need to either
(a) find a place on the engine bars which suits the aim of the lamp (I think this is do-able fron m a quick trial fit yof them) or
(b) make something up which will give some movement.
Anybody else wired in extra lamps- where and how did you fit them?
I'm quite keen to fit a switch to them so I can choose when they are on/off. Can anybody post a link to a switch I can buy which would do this?
Cheers
Ben
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I can't see much difference between this and the similar one for about £18
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=311455685821&alt=web
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Perfect- exactly what I need. Just ordered it...
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I think I'll be getting one too when I find some lights I like. Let us know how you get on with it.
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Will do- ta for the link!
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Has anyone fitted Cree lights off eBay if so do have any photos thanks
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The lamps came today and they seem decent however...
The base doesn't swivel, and I can't see a way to make it move, so I need to either
(a) find a place on the engine bars which suits the aim of the lamp (I think this is do-able fron m a quick trial fit yof them) or
(b) make something up which will give some movement.
Anybody else wired in extra lamps- where and how did you fit them?
I'm quite keen to fit a switch to them so I can choose when they are on/off. Can anybody post a link to a switch I can buy which would do this?
Cheers
Ben
I have a set of these and I was able to turn the base around by undoing the retaining bolt abit
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Sounds good- I'll give it a go. Plan to fit them one night in the week or next weekend.
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Sounds good- I'll give it a go. Plan to fit them one night in the week or next weekend.
Biglad
Did you sort out your lights :thumb:
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I've just ordered some of the Chinese U5 cree for 13 quid from bang good. So I'll see how they go, I'm hoping to remove the useless modes (especially strobe) from them and just have on and off.
How'd you get on with the GPI Graham?
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How'd you get on with the GPI Graham?
Fitted it at the weekend all worked in the garage road testing it on Wednesday . :thumb:
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The fusebox arrived the other day - I'm going to try to fit it one night this week. I do need to solder an extra length to the switch cable - it's only about a foot long!
I'll let you know when I've done it.
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I've ordered a switch to go with my cheap Chinese lights, I might not bother with it and just have them on all the time.
Let me know how you get on Graham.
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Apologies for the basic nature of this question....
Was tinkering around last night getting ready to fit my lamps and grips...
I need to get the wires from the 2 lamps and the switch into the fuse box. What I'm thinking of doing is soldering the 3 wires (1 from each of the lamps and 1 from the switch) to another single length and then taking the other end of this single length to the fuse box with one of the connectors that came with the fusebox.
Does this sound sensible or is there a better way?
Ben
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Not sure I follow your description, but what I would do is, negatives (join together and solder a single longer wire if needed) from the lamps to the black wire on the fusebox, red wire from the fusebox to one side the switch and then join the positive from the lamps to the other side of the switch.
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Cheers - I think that's what I meant! - your description is far better than mine!!
Join the positives from the lamps and one side of the switch together and solder on a single length to this and join the other end of the single length to the fusebox.
Repeat for the negatives...
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Hi
A technical question about running lights.
I have bought the cree lights that use 15w of power.
If I wire them up to the headlights, would it have any bad effect, 1 light to each headlight.
I would also fit an inline fuse.
I would rather not fit extra switches to operate them and they will be on all the time.
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Personally, I wouldn't wire them in to the headlight circuit, that's extra load going over the wires and switch gear and it might not have been designed with that much overhead.
I would wire them with a relay that is activated by a switched live, such as the headlights or the handy one just under the tank that is for the tail light. There is also a heated grips connector somewhere near the radiator that I believe is switched live when the ignition is on that you could use if it is not in use.
I do make a fusebox that is plug and play but the last one is spoken for, I'll not be making any more until there's 4 or 5 interested buyers, but they aren't too difficult to make up.
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As Bigpie said, don't connect them to the headlight wires.
The stock cabling can only just handle the 2x55W for the normal headlights and it's not a good idea to add more watts to that.
So, use a fusebox or some other switched live circuit.
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Bigpie
What sort of relay do I need, amps?
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-PIN-12V-40A-Automotive-Changeover-RELAY-including-WIRING-LOOM-/400292899718?hash=item5d3350eb86:g:EYUAAOSwVL1V--OX
would something like this do?
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Something like that. You won't need the middle pin (think you can just remove that). You'll need an inline fuse. This should give you an idea of how to wire it up http://www.v-strom.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=22445.0
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I got my bike all rigged up. I fitted the switch and as you switch the lights on and off it cycles through the high beam/low beam/ flashing cycles.
I fitted heated grips while I had the bike opened up.
The fuse box definitely made the whole job easier!
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An earlier post linked to a YouTube video on how to disable the U5 CREE spotlight dim and strobe modes.
My lights had different circuitry with a separate green coloured driver/psu circuit board shrink wrapped between the two halves of the light body. I cut off the shrink wrap and removed the eight-legged chip in the corner of the board... NOT THE ONE more in the centre of the board.
It seems to have worked, but time will tell.
My backup plan was to bin the circuit board and wire the leds to separate driver units mounted under the seat. These are on ebay at £3.99 from China.
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Yep, I did watch the youtube clip, but given I could write what I know about electrics on the back of a stamp, I figured it best to live with cycling through the modes with each flick of the switch. Not optimal maybe, but at least I couldn't break them! Maybe one day I'll take the time to learn- I did quite enjoy doing the job...
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This might be a daft question....but do these lights have a top and bottom. Reason I ask is that as they have a high& low beam ibwould have thought there would be an optimum way to fit them?
Going to take them off and see how they shine in different positions.
Biglad
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That was a daft question!! Been out and made some adjustments to the angle of them.
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Hi big lad glad you got your bike all sorted now, I also started at the weekend to fit one of big pies aux fuse boards( which I must say is brilliant and a must have item), I also fitted heed crash bars, and have Cree running lights to fit hopefully get them done tommorow after work, I also have Oxford hot grips to fit, now I know you have just fitted some heated grips what sort of job was it please ?
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I used the Dr Bike ones with the rotary temperature control. The job itself was fairly straightforward. I threaded the cable between the bars and the fuse box under the tank while I had it lifted. I took the old grips off, cleaned the old adhesive off with some v.fine sandpaper. I had the take the outer flange off on the throttle grip as the new one wouldn't slide over it - I used a craft knife. When I put the grips on I spread the super glue around the bar / throttle slider, lined the grip up, and smacked it with a mallet. While the glue's wet its like a lubricant, for a few seconds anyway, until it sets solid. Be quick...
I've got the plugs for the grips and controller under the tank.
I've got my cables coming up on top of the levers, seems to work well.
I had more hassle with the lights, though this was due to my lack of electrical knowledge!! However I got there in the end. I've got my lights mounted on the crash bars, though I might see if I can lift them up a bit (perhaps hang them from the indicator stalks) - I think this might give a better beam...
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Hi big lad thank you for your reply, I have just come in from the garage I have the lights mounted on the heed bars and have just tried both lights by just pushing the bare wires in the connectors, ( I also have little knowledge of electrics but will get there) thanks for your input on the heated grips I will do them later on this week. Cheers
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Here's a handy wee description of using a relay.
http://www.canyonchasers.net/shop/generic/relay.php
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I'm a proper newbie when it comes to electrics .....so please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think bigpie's fuse box does this job- and is basically a plug and play item. Even I could do it!!! His device comes with 3 attachment points (wrong terminology but you'll understand what I mean) . I've used one for my heated grips, one for my led lights and I need to find something for the other one!!
I'm keen to learn more about electrics so did read and (try to) understand the article.
If anyone knows of a book/weblink to auto electric guide for newbies I'd well be up for it... my electric knowledge is shocking...now, how do I wire up those loud horns?!?!?
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Wiring up horns? Have a look HERE (http://www.v-strom.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=21326.0)
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Hi big lad that's interesting I have also just wired up gree lights using big pies aux fuse board, I have used 2 of the take off points for the lights ( one in each ) but I read you have only used one of the take off points do they work OK ? :)
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Using just one will be fine, iirc they are 15w each so 30w at 12v is 2.5 amp.
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That's brilliant I will change them then, I still have to fit my hot grips I haven't had time yet, with the lights they go in to the strobe flashing first so I have ordered a switch I hope that will cure it.
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There are mods to remove the low and strobe 'features' either by shorting a couple of pins on a IC or removing it completely.
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Yep, mine work fine on just one take off point. Its a 2A fuse I've got in it. No probs yet!
I read about soldering pins together to remove all modes other than hi but my knowledge isn't enough to do it. Its no hassle for me to switch the handlebar switch on and off twice when I stop the bike so when next time I switch it on it comes on in hi mode.
B..
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Hi big lad and hi big pie, as I said I have ordered a switch so hopefully I can stop the strobing ( well not stop it but control it) big pie as I have the lights already wired in to your fuse board ( which is a brilliant bit of kit I might add ) could you please advise me the best way to wire in the switch ? And big lad I will wire in the hot grips this week many thanks.
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Heres how I did my wiring..
Negative from the fuse box to both negatives of the lights. I twisted all 3 wires together and soldered them.
Positive from the fuse box to one wire from the switch.
Positives from both lights to the other wire from the switch.
B..
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As above.
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I had a set of these given to me as my brother bought them and 2 lots turned up. I fitted them to the engine bars some shape as the total lack of adjustment made it awkward to focus them.. Then after a few rides out I removed them as they were a pain because they would go out of sink, one would be hi beam and one flashing then one lo beam and one flashing and so on. Bit of a potch you can do without before setting off. Also they were falling apart and the supposed stainless Allen key bolts rusted! Whilst I will agree that oem stuff is a total rip off, the saying you get what you pay for Is right in this case..
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Hi Bazza I haven't given mine a proper test yet,it is a pain having to go through the strobing thou, as you said you get what you pay for, I will see how they go if they fall to bits I haven't lost a lot of money that's the way I see it many thanks
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One question about all this, does it matter what size wire you use, when wiring them up.
I have used 8 amp wire.
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Hi mr king the wire I used was quite thin (sorry not sure of the amps) it matched both the wire that came with the gree lights and the switch.
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Lights plus relay and inline fuse with a handlebar switch I've got the givi s310 mounted to crash bars straight to battery
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Ditto Arran fitted givi lights yesterday excellent quality and they look smart , connected the green switch wire to the rear brake connector for an ignition feed
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Sorry to bring back a dead post but I’ve bought some of these lights and the you doe bar switch has 3 wires not two. How do I wire them from the aux fuse box please