Suzuki V-Strom (VStrom) Owners Club DL250, DL650, DL1000 & DL1050

V-Strom specific discussion => V-Strom specific discussion => The Notice Board => Topic started by: mjc506 on August 11, 2013, 23:24:56

Title: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: mjc506 on August 11, 2013, 23:24:56
I now have rather a number of tools lying around that I hope to lend out and get used, rather than keep them shut in a drawer somewhere. While most jobs on these fantastic machines can be done with standard tools, there are a number of cases where a special tool is either necessary, or useful to complete a job.

Proposed rules (comments/advice accepted):

1) The owner of the tool keeps it
2) The borrower pays postage both ways (or collects/delivers) plus a refundable deposit. This deposit is to discourage losses, and should help replace the tool if it is damaged or lost. For cheaper tools, the deposit could be the full value of the tool, but the more expensive bits of kit could make this prohibitive. Maybe the expensive ones require supervision? I don't know.
3) Anyone losing/damaging a tool is liable to be named and shamed :GRR:  :haha:

I'll keep this first post updated with current rules and a list of tools/owners. I'll try to get the equivalent Suzuki part numbers too, but please double check these :)

I'll start :)

mjc506:
1) Fork seal driver tool (will fit oil seals and dust seals. Quite a nice tool, can be used with or without stantions fitted, or even with the fork already attached to the bike!)
2) Clutch holder tool. Definitely fits the Wee, probably the Vee, maybe the Glee?
3) Crankshaft journal bearing tool - removes and re-fits the journal bearings on the crankshaft in the Wee. Not sure about Vee or Glee. I hope no-one ever actually needs this! You will also need a press, or mallet + firm nerve to use this tool!
4) Crankcase separator - works nicely, and should be fairly universal. Please don't use this as a flywheel puller!
5) Flywheel puller :) M20x1.5mm RH thread for the Wee. You will need some way of holding the crankshaft still to use this. Please note - my flywheel was stuck solid, and I couldn't shift it. The tool should work normally though.
6) Blind bearing puller. Quite useful, a decent range of attachments.
7) Tubeless tyre bead breaker - a sodding great lump, so only really useful if you visit me and/or collect it

There is other stuff too, I'll get a full list together later in the week.

Also on offer from myself is mechanical assistance. I don't pretend to be some god of engines, but if anyone is faced with something major and needs some help, I will help where I can! :fix:
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: Juvecu on August 11, 2013, 23:50:12
I have a steering stem nut tool and a swingarm nut tool. I also have a once piece fork seal driver, heavy one that makes seal installation a hassle free job and ensures a perfect install every time. These are all up for loan providing postage is paid both ways, a timely return is ensured and they aren't mistreated. The won't be available for at least the next 2 months as I'll be needing them for putting the Strom back together.

Which blind bearing puller do you have, I need a good quality one, but want to buy my own. It's not something I'll borrow as it's too easily damaged if you have a difficult bearing to remove (like the damn swingarm and cushion linkage bearings :GRR: )
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: mjc506 on August 12, 2013, 00:09:26
I'll add then to the list when you're ready :)

Mine's a draper one, I'll get the model for you in the morning. It wasn't cheap though
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: iansoady on August 12, 2013, 10:49:19
Super idea - put me down as a potential borrower (although I do have generic stuff like carbtune etc which I'd be happy to throw into the pot).

I did once suggest a similar idea for one of the Tiger forums but no-one seemed to be interested. Maybe Tiger owners are richer than V-strom owners so can buy their own?
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: MartinW on August 12, 2013, 10:54:37
Maybe Tiger owners need the tools more often and need to carry a complete set in their top box, whereas Strom owners only need one when the planets align and the lottery comes up and Arsenal win a trophy.
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: Juvecu on August 12, 2013, 12:59:51
The tools aren't all that expensive, in some cases it might be better to buy the tool rather than borrow it if you take the postage costs into account. If you live close to someone that has it, some would rather borrow it if it's not something they're going to be using much more than once or twice a year. In other cases the tool is just so damn difficult to get hold of that borrowing is the best option (like the crank journal stuff mjc has.)

I'm a sucker for tools though, I like having my own so that I can do anything I need to at that impulsive moment that I decide I want to :)
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: mjc506 on August 12, 2013, 21:01:25
Yup, quite a lot of stuff would be cheaper just to buy. That said, if it's a saturday evening and the bike needs fixing now, the ability just to collect a tool from a local-ish strommer is nice :)
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: UK_Vstrom650 on August 12, 2013, 21:22:47
Great idea. If I ever borrow any there'll be a few beers included with the deposit/return of the tool.
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: geraldo on August 16, 2013, 16:46:19
If any of the special tools are not too "special" in a fabricating sense then I would be up for making some in my Workshop offshore. All the toys are there...Lathe, Milling machine, Tig welding including Aluminium.
Give me a shout.... :fix:
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: bigpie on August 22, 2013, 19:08:23
Tools, while useful to be able to borrow, its the experience hand at using them that would be of use to me.

I'm happy and able to change pads, discs, brake fluid and caliper seals, I've never changed fork oil for example.
Or when the manual says 'check' some thing, I can check that it is there (sometimes) but I wouldn't know what I was checking.

I'd rather go to the tool owners house and have them watch/guide me. I thought I'd seen something like that suggested on here, workshop days etc.

The most specialised tool I have is a torque wrench. 1/2 drive.
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: mjc506 on August 24, 2013, 09:34:31
I can't see anything wing with that :) also saves deposit/post cost.
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: bigpie on May 10, 2014, 20:53:41
While TLPower was round earlier he pointed out my fork seal is leaking, damn, looks like a job for one weekend. Is the lending of the fork seal driver still on offer?
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: mjc506 on May 11, 2014, 07:54:06
You could probably fix it by sliding a bit of film around the seal. Like this, but with a strip of photographic film instead of the posh tool <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wlzfoVroSY

Failing that, I know where mine is (which is a miracle!) so I can get it posted tomorrow.

don't know how much it'll be to post, but how does £10.00 to cover post and deposit sound? Once I get it back I'll refund whatever was left after posting <!-- s:) -->:)<!-- s:) -->

PM me your address and we'll get sorted
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: bigpie on May 11, 2014, 08:51:17
No rush, need to negotiate with the mrs when I can do the job. My dust seals are cracked anyway so might as we'll replace them. A tenner is fine, I was expecting closer to 40 as a deposit.

Now need to work out which fork oil to put in, I've read 5w from one isn't the same as 5w from another.
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: Holmsey on May 11, 2014, 08:53:35

Don't know if this will be of any use to you

And all you need is a bottle of Coke (Other soft drink suppliers are available  <!-- s:grin: -->:grin:<!-- s:grin: --> )

http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/2-goldwing-technical-forum/373457-homemade-sealmate-fork-seal-repair-tool.html#post1350658 (http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/2-goldwing-technical-forum/373457-homemade-sealmate-fork-seal-repair-tool.html#post1350658)
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: Juvecu on May 11, 2014, 11:45:20
If I'd seen this earlier I'd have sent my fork seal driver with longman to Rotherham for you. He was here last night collecting his DR-Z.
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: bigpie on May 11, 2014, 12:22:51
Bugger, oh well. Going to pm mjc later on when I'm on laptop. DRZ in the special tools lending library? :D
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: MartinW on May 11, 2014, 12:47:32
I think he meant ECU not DR-Z.
 :)
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: MartinW on May 11, 2014, 13:27:50
Nope, Wrong. It was a DR-Z.
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: Juvecu on May 11, 2014, 15:02:37
I don't think he'll put the DR-Z up for loan  lol
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: bigpie on May 11, 2014, 15:15:56
I call shotgun if he does.
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: bigpie on May 14, 2014, 17:36:01
Seal driver arrived today. Still waiting on the seals. I'll get it back to you ASAP. Thanks
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: longman on May 14, 2014, 18:15:56
I have to disappoint you blokes;) DRZ is not in the library;)
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: mjc506 on May 15, 2014, 08:46:34
Quote from: "bigpie"
Seal driver arrived today. Still waiting on the seals. I'll get it back to you ASAP. Thanks
Good news :thumb: no rush, get sorted first :)

Quote from: "longman"
I have to disappoint you blokes;) DRZ is not in the library;)
Terrible news :bawl:
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: bigpie on May 23, 2014, 13:15:51
Job done.

I'll give it a few days to check the new seals aren't leaking, then I'll sent the tool back.

Thanks for the loan.
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: mjc506 on May 23, 2014, 15:27:21
Good stuff. Sounded like a typical 5min job (where everything that can, does go wrong!) Glad you got it sorted, make sure it's right before you post it back :)
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: Theflyingscot on September 19, 2015, 08:10:50
Just wondering if anyone has a Carbtune I could borrow, local to the Derby are if possible.
Cheers
Steve
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: bigpie on September 19, 2015, 08:15:08
I don't have a carbtune, but I do have a 2 dial vacuum gauge from I used to balance my TBs
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: Theflyingscot on September 20, 2015, 09:19:00
Are they hard to use bigpie
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: bigpie on September 20, 2015, 09:47:11
They might be, I've checked and I'm missing the hose extensions. The tails on them are about 5 cm. So they might not still reach both TBs.

Procedure is pretty simple iirc. Connect one gauge to on TB, then the other to same one, check they read the same, then plug on in to one and on in to other. Plenty of guides around on the web.
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: Theflyingscot on September 20, 2015, 15:06:09
I've been looking on the web about the homemade manometers, thinking of trying one of those. Have you heard of anyone having any success with these?
Also do you know what dia the vacuum hose needs to be?
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: TLPower on September 20, 2015, 15:26:48
Bigpie I think we left the pipes connected to your previous 'bike.

Flyingscot, I have the same setup as bigpie. They use 5mm hoses but you need to use a reducer to control the dial "bounce". These are included in the kit.

You're more than welcome to borrow mine, or pop up and we can sort it one weekend. Check the TPS at the same time.
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: Theflyingscot on September 20, 2015, 16:58:32
Cheers TLP, I'll give you a shout next time a have a weekend off.
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: bigpie on September 20, 2015, 18:00:08
Doh, that sounds about right.
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library. Clutch Hub Holding Tool for the 1000
Post by: sharealike on January 19, 2016, 12:57:26
Anyone need loan of the clutch hub holding tool for taking out their clutch basket? I'm happy to put one or two in circulation. Can be passed on as and when required from owner to owner. No need for a deposit. Cost you the post to pass it on when the time comes.

Idea is the tool is posted on to you from the previous user. You need to use it twice. Once to take the basket out to send off for modification. Then a second time to fit the replacement/modified basket when it returns. Hold on to the tool for a while and post it on to the next person making a request here.

Please, please note. If your are taking a basket out to be rebuilt/modified or for something else I highly recommend use of this tool to save you damaging the actual clutch basket. Post cost to send it on would be up to £5 maximum. New baskets are over £200 and take near on a week to arrive. Ouch.
Download instructions how to use it here. http://www.vibefreev.com/downloads.htm
Title: Re: The special tools Lending Library.
Post by: Yoyo on January 19, 2016, 23:39:07
That's a great offer, I also have one should anyone need it.