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Offline Raffles

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Glee (650 AL3) electrical connector waterproofing
« on: February 23, 2017, 09:39:45 »
Hello,

On my intro post, somebody replied and advised me to get the electrical connectors behind the radiator waterproofed: http://www.v-strom.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=31605.msg312950#msg312950

I was very grateful for the advice as I rely on my bike as a main form of transport and never had any electrical problems on previous bikes so need my Glee to be as reliable! I did a search on the forum and the only posts I found seem to apply to the VStrom 1000... so the question is, is this a problem for the Glee (650 AL3) also, or have they changed the design so that it isn't a problem?

I ride all year round commuting so will definitely need protecting from rain if this is an issue. However, I get very little time to spend maintaining my bike - I struggle to keep an eye on basics like the brake pads wearing out, chain needing tensioning etc. certainly never remove any part of the bike let alone anything major like the tank which somebody mentioned... so the next question what is the easiest way to do the water proofing?

I haven't picked it up from the dealer yet so would it be reasonable for me to ask them to do this as part of their final inspection of the bike before I pick it up on Sat?

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Re: Glee (650 AL3) electrical connector waterproofing
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2017, 09:56:25 »
You may find this thread useful ....
http://www.v-strom.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=26842.0
.... I should be picking up a Glee tomorrow, so I'm also looking for things to do, like waterproofing connectors.

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Re: Glee (650 AL3) electrical connector waterproofing
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2017, 10:20:22 »
Basically get the tank/airbox off (latter can be a pain) and do this:


Water comes over the top of the radiator and causes corrosion. The mods in the link also help. I've had two electrical issues in 16 months so not impressed with Suzuki's electrics as like you, my bike is my main form of transport. Have flagged the issue to Suzuki but they're not interested.

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Re: Glee (650 AL3) electrical connector waterproofing
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2017, 10:41:11 »
Thanks. Being realistic taking the tank off is something I know I won't get round to but what I picked up from the thread was to get a can of ACF 50 and give it a good spray - not a perfect solution but something I might actually do! Never heard of that stuff before so that's a big plus for me - Cheers

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Re: Glee (650 AL3) electrical connector waterproofing
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2017, 10:49:32 »
ACF50 is wonderful stuff, and certainly keeps the rust at bay. But it's expensive, and the spray cans don't work very well, particularly in cold weather, unless you warm them up a bit - standing the can in a bucket of hottish water for 10 minutes helps!

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Re: Glee (650 AL3) electrical connector waterproofing
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2017, 11:00:04 »
OK thanks for the tip - I would probably stick the can on top of the radiator where I warm my gloves ;-) are there any cheaper alternatives or is that the stuff to go for?

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Re: Glee (650 AL3) electrical connector waterproofing
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2017, 11:39:04 »
Use ACF50. You can get a big bottle for about  £35 off ebay but you don't need to use much and it goes a long way. You can pour a bit on a rag and rub it over all the metal (just avoid brakes/discs/tyres). I poured a cap full into every connector I could find before covering. If you can't get the tank off, see if you can add a flap above the radiator to prevent water getting in.  :thumb:

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Re: Glee (650 AL3) electrical connector waterproofing
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2017, 12:28:57 »
Raffles, a lazy way to protect the connectors is to buy an aerosol 'spray grease' and liberally spray the non waterproof connectors visible above the rad, as a backup, cut some foam to block the gap between the top of the rad & frame to prevent water getting in there in the first place.
My connectors were perfect after 2 winters, when I stripped them and did them properly this year.

An annoying oversight by Suzuki if you know (and do something) about it, a major PITA & design flaw if you don't!!!

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Re: Glee (650 AL3) electrical connector waterproofing
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2017, 14:24:06 »
Thanks blokes, much appreciated. I'm thinking the radiator will get hot in summer. Does the type of foam matter? I've got an old sponge that might fit in the gap nicely but is there a danger it will melt?

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Re: Glee (650 AL3) electrical connector waterproofing
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2017, 14:29:44 »

Ha ha the forum auto-replaced  g-u-y-s  with  b-l-o-k-e-s  - reads kind of funny!

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Re: Glee (650 AL3) electrical connector waterproofing
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2017, 18:26:59 »
If it's a sponge, then won't it add to the issue by absorbing all the water and sitting there sopping? I'd use heat resistant rubber...

G's to Blokes is part of the Americanism filter the boss deploys on the forum... bit like 'Donkey'  lol

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Re: Glee (650 AL3) electrical connector waterproofing
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2017, 18:41:13 »
reads kind of funny!

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Re: Glee (650 AL3) electrical connector waterproofing
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2017, 12:20:22 »
Jeez.. I've not done that and ridden through all kids of weather without a worry.
Now I'll feel vulnerable if I sneeze..  :shock:

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Re: Glee (650 AL3) electrical connector waterproofing
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2017, 13:36:43 »
Don't worry, you'll be fine ....... for another year or so...... :stirpot:

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Re: Glee (650 AL3) electrical connector waterproofing
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2017, 15:00:38 »
I've not done anything either. Although I did spray a lot of ACF50 when I cleaned it and hoped for the best.

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Re: Glee (650 AL3) electrical connector waterproofing
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2017, 11:08:50 »
Thanks blokes. I got a can of ACF 50 and gave it a good spray. Of course previous owners have been riding it the last few years without the protection but only has 7k on the clock and is immaculate so I think has seen little wet weather till now. Really enjoying it  :)

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Re: Glee (650 AL3) electrical connector waterproofing
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2021, 12:11:46 »
Basically get the tank/airbox off (latter can be a pain) and do this:


Water comes over the top of the radiator and causes corrosion. The mods in the link also help. I've had two electrical issues in 16 months so not impressed with Suzuki's electrics as like you, my bike is my main form of transport. Have flagged the issue to Suzuki but they're not interested.

Any tips for getting the air box off? Have to get the tank off to replace the air filter soon so might as well go a bit deeper and try and waterproof the connectors properly.

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Re: Glee (650 AL3) electrical connector waterproofing
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2021, 18:40:41 »
Carefully.
There are clamps attaching it to the throttle bodies.

You'll need a long cross head screwdriver, I used my halfords pro tool kit as it come with extentions and bit holders.

You'll also need to unclip the crank case breather pipes and there iirc 2 sensors that need to be disconnected.



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Re: Glee (650 AL3) electrical connector waterproofing
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2021, 21:47:18 »
   Unfortunately on the DL650L2 and onwards bikes they have changed the clamps on the air box to throttle bodies to a tiny Allen screw with a 3mm head.I had to make one by cutting the end off an Allen key and soldering it into the end of a length of 6 mm threaded rod about 300mm long, then made a handle out of a piece of wooden dowel.If you can use a ball ended Allen key so much the better as the front clamp is a total pig to get at.
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Re: Glee (650 AL3) electrical connector waterproofing
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2021, 00:02:02 »
My AL2 has a cross headed screw on the front throttle body and an Allen screw on the rear. The front is a pain, but the best way I've found is using my 450mm screwdriver set I bought from Screwfix years ago and aim from the throttle side through the side cowling grill.
(I have seen the front just being pulled off, and last time a dealer worked on my bike, the front wasn't on properly so it just came off)