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Offline Biccy Monster

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Mud Pluggers
« on: June 04, 2011, 21:42:13 »
Gents,

Any sugestions for a good pair of mud plugging tyres for fitting to a spare pair of wheels??

I am thinking of going for a play in the muck on the Vee but thing the anakee's (which are great road tyres) may struggle!!

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Re: Mud Pluggers
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2011, 22:32:44 »
If you want to go 50/50 , then TKC80's are the tyres to go for.

But if you're trail rides aren't too rough, just let the pressure on your anakees down to 20 20 and you'll be fine. Same with Tourances.

(Obviously with spare wheels, you can just go , woohoo, and stick TKC80's on, but you're biggest benefit from them will be in mud and deep sand, otherwise, what you have is fine, I am assuming you have a wee compressor or pump to put the tyres up again when you are back on the road.)

If you get bored of having spare wheels, I'll have them off you though ;) ;)

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Re: Mud Pluggers
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2011, 22:34:41 »
me again.
Put a bigger sprocket on the spare wheel while you are at it, you'll get more low down grunt then, perfecto for offroad. (so long as your chain can manage)

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Re: Mud Pluggers
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2011, 07:42:26 »
Cheers Hutchie!!!

bigger sprocket aye??  :auto-dirtbike:

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Re: Mud Pluggers
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2011, 15:13:55 »
aye, it'll pull more at the bottom end, but you'll lose top speed.
So perfect for offroad.

You could go as many as 4 teeth on the rear , but no more.

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Re: Mud Pluggers
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2011, 16:35:34 »
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You could go as many as 4 teeth on the rear , but no more.

Crikey, 4 teeth off the rear and you'll be wheelieing off the throttle in fifth ! Be good fun mind... :shy:
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Re: Mud Pluggers
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2011, 10:07:21 »
Jeez, second hand wheels are expensive!!

By the time I buy two wheels £230, two tyres £200, disk £200 and a sprocket £30 I may as well have bought a old  DR350??

hmmmmmm mondo enduro Dr350 day dreaming!!!

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Re: Mud Pluggers
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2011, 16:31:24 »
a big  :thumb:  for the DR !
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Re: Mud Pluggers
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2011, 18:05:02 »
dr350 is a great wee bike.

I had one for a while, was a real hoot, cos it weighed nothing.

I thought you already had spare wheels :(

I'm always looking for them, so I can get tkc80's on.

Meantime, shiny new tourances arrived this morning, happy days.

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Re: Mud Pluggers
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2011, 21:35:10 »
Altogether now: "LET'S GO!! Mondo Enduro!"

Currently re-reading the book and I have an very strong urge to buy a DR350.  :auto-dirtbike:
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Re: Mud Pluggers
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2011, 22:12:31 »
Cracking book, great DVD, loved it. It made Ewan & Charlie's effort look a complete sham...
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Re: Mud Pluggers
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2011, 22:18:24 »
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Cracking book, great DVD, loved it. It made Ewan & Charlie's effort look a complete sham...
[thread hijack alert!]Have you seen Terra Circa? ME was better I reckon, but they did do the Zilov Gap... and they'd got a bit better at film-making  :grin:

(I really don't know why people rate the LWR/ LWD. Like you say, Mondo Enduro makes them look sad and ridiculous  :crazy: )
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Re: Mud Pluggers
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2011, 18:08:03 »
Terra Circa was equally compulsive veiwing   :thumb:
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Re: Mud Pluggers
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2011, 18:14:08 »
I'm not sure what is sad and ridiculous about either long way round or long way down?? Two blokes riding 18,000 miles on bikes through interesting places, OK they had support but nobody rode the bikes for them! Of course there is always someone who does it better and more hardcore ie mondo enduro (which I agree was a fantastic trip) but it does not make what they achieved any less impressive in my opinion.
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Re: Mud Pluggers
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2011, 22:29:13 »
Short version:
Two millionaires ride around the world using lots of free stuff, supported by a huge team, avoiding any hard bits on the way. Yawn.

Long version:
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Poring over a map of the world at home one quiet Saturday afternoon, Ewan McGregor … noticed that it was possible to ride all the way round the world… It was a revelation he couldn’t get out of his head. Long Way Round is the result of their adventures … against all odds, realising their dream.
I did not make this up: this is from the jacket blurb for Long Way Round - Chasing Shadows Across the World .  

LWR is an interesting enough trip and I'd have nothing against it if it wasn't for its pretensions. But it promotes itself as something that it isn't - an adventure. The level of support on LWR was such that it could have been done by almost anyone. It was just a trip--a pretty anodyne trip at that--and I’m really not sure why people still give it any credibility in the canon of motorbike adventure tales. There is no risk. There is no jeopardy. There is no struggle. Without these things there is no adventure.

LWR was a circus: a small army of security advisors, doctors, visa monkeys, interpreters, local fixers, mechanics etc all following along just out of camera shot.

McGregor and Boorman were given their bikes. They were given their clothing. They were given their accessories. They were given their camping gear. They were given their support vehicles. Why should I respect that? "Because nobody rode their bikes for them"? Compare this with e.g. the Biking for Barnardo's lads - now that's an adventure. That deserves respect.

At the end of the day what was the point? If they had really wanted to do it to "realise their dream" they would have just set off low-key, done it, filmed it and come back to applause and respect (mine included). It's not like they couldn't afford it or couldn't get the time off work. Sad and ridiculous indeed.

In Costa Rica, Mondo Enduro met a bunch of overlanders:  
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We stopped for a chat but sadly realised that these were the kind of people we were glad to be away from in the first place. Clive deduced perceptively that there was something inherently pointless about risk-free adventure travel.

The people in question were on a Dragoman “adventure” tour but Mondo may as well have been describing LWR a decade later.
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Re: Mud Pluggers
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2011, 09:19:47 »
Sorry but that just sounds like the green eyed monster speaking.
I think you need to watch their trip through Mongolia and Siberia and then tell me you think they avoided all hard bits and anyone could have done the trip! How many people would be happy to ride that distance in that time frame? Riding up to 500 miles a day and averaging 200... From comments on this and other forums the common feeling is that that would be just too many miles even on a week’s holiday let alone for 3 months solid.
Biking for Barnadoes was a fantastic trip, the boys did have a great adventure but guess where they got their inspiration for the trip from???? yep it was from watching LWR. And it was the same for me, I had never even ridden a bike until I saw LWR. I think it inspired a lot of people.
Personally it never bothered me that they were pampered on their way because at the end of the day they still did it, and that is something that most people only dream of doing.
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Re: Mud Pluggers
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2011, 09:55:35 »
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Sorry but that just sounds like the green eyed monster speaking.
Am I jealous that they were given a few hundred grands' worth of free bikes and kit and then paid to ride round the world? Of course!

Do I respect how they did it? No.

Do I think that they "realised their dream against all odds" ?  :-x
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Re: Mud Pluggers
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2011, 10:10:59 »
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I think you need to watch their trip through Mongolia and Siberia...
Was that the bit where they were on the train or where they were on the truck?  :neen:

P.S. I am liking 'Mainly Due South' a lot - now that is a proper trip and an inspiration  :thumb:
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Re: Mud Pluggers
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2011, 11:19:57 »
Thanks, I hope you like it, never had the same budget a Mr McGregor though! the whole trip INCLUDING the bike, cost less than a 1200 gs!
Inspired by LRW though :thumb:

The train part of the LWR was a little dissapointing I have to agree, the bikingforbarnardos boys managed that part of the trip on bald trailwings!
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Re: Mud Pluggers
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2011, 12:08:07 »
I read an interview with the BfB boys once along these lines:

Interviewer: So what aftermarket add-ons did you have?
BfB: A 12v socket.

 Hardcore :thumb:
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