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Offline zippy

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truimph trophy 1964 /1970
« on: December 18, 2013, 18:40:36 »
hi blokes
don't know too much about the older triumphs but have been offered 2 trophys for sale both have been stored in a garage since 1978  everything is there and will need a full restore the bloke wants 5k for the 1964 and 3k for the 1970 is this about right ???? I just don't know I am a keen restorer but mainly jap bikes Suzuki gt250 x7 , kawaski kh100,and others
just fancy a little something different to do
if anybody can give advice very welcomed
thanks Jason

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Re: truimph trophy 1964 /1970
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2013, 18:44:35 »
old english bikes are a lot more work to keep on the road than the late 70's early 80's jap bikes. The technology being that much earlier, parts harder to get etc..  But if you have time and patience with a lot of knowledge and skill.......... go ahead

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Re: truimph trophy 1964 /1970
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2013, 18:46:45 »
And don't forget you'll need imperial spanners & sockets  :thumb:
It's pronounced 'twenty-one-twelve'

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Re: truimph trophy 1964 /1970
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2013, 20:00:28 »
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And don't forget you'll need imperial spanners & sockets  :thumb:

Possibly whitworth as well. And a big box of plasters.
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Re: truimph trophy 1964 /1970
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2013, 20:01:34 »
very painful that spanner rash  lol

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Re: truimph trophy 1964 /1970
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2013, 20:05:39 »
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old english bikes are a lot more work to keep on the road than the late 70's early 80's jap bikes. The technology being that much earlier, parts harder to get etc..  But if you have time and patience with a lot of knowledge and skill.......... go ahead

Nonsense!!!! On all accounts - dead easy rebuild, simple/basic engineering and all parts are readily available.
Just take your time and do a lot of reading - both on & off the internet. The UK police used them for years and loved them and so did Steve McQueen  :thumb:
Personaly I would go for the 64. Both are a bit expensive though.

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Re: truimph trophy 1964 /1970
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2013, 20:08:55 »
sorry,, but shit electrics and come with built in oil leaks, prone to stopping in the rain . I know a lot of folk with old english bikes but they don't do much riding on them

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Re: truimph trophy 1964 /1970
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2013, 20:13:07 »
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The technology

Quick re-read. WHAT technology? Did not exist in terms of British motorcycles in those days  :fix:

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Re: truimph trophy 1964 /1970
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2013, 20:19:25 »
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sorry,, but shit electrics and come with built in oil leaks, prone to stopping in the rain . I know a lot of folk with old english bikes but they don't do much riding on them

Shame on you! Joe Lucas will be spinning in his grave!
All joking aside though, there was not a whole lot wrong with the ingredients of the product, it was more down to the shoddy assembly that killed them.

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Re: truimph trophy 1964 /1970
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2013, 20:23:36 »
english bikes were good until the japs showed us how it should be done...

please don't misquote me

I said

"the technology being much earlier"

in comparison to the first jap superbikes that arrived here in the late 70's

Honda 750 4, Kawasaki 900,, XS 1100

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Re: truimph trophy 1964 /1970
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2013, 20:52:09 »
Joe Lucas - the prince of darkness...
It's pronounced 'twenty-one-twelve'

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Re: truimph trophy 1964 /1970
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2013, 21:20:33 »
Virtually all the problems with old British bikes was due to poor assembly with old gasket materials, sealants and primitive electronics. All of these can be fixed with modern equivalents if you have the time, money and inclination. They're generally very easy to work on as well and if done properly can be very reliable and economical.  All parts are available, especially for Triumphs, some pricey and some much less than our Japanese bikes. Whether you'll like the end result is a matter of opinion. Bought at the right price and made good, classic bikes are a much better investment than any savings account. Many will say that the best Triumph twins were those built during the late '60s especially the Bonnevilles around '69-'71 along with the Trophy (very similar but with a single carb). Whether the ones you've been offered are good value only a good viewing by an experienced classic owner would determine. If they're original and not been messed about with, which is all too common, they could well be a good buy.

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Re: truimph trophy 1964 /1970
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2013, 22:45:19 »
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Re: truimph trophy 1964 /1970
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2013, 18:06:14 »
If he's looking to sell them then he might come down in price, it'd be another story if you were trying to persuade him to sell. To me the prices feel a bit steep, but I don't know their condition. I'd see if I can find others in similar condition and compare prices. I'd also see what I can get for them at present if they were fully restored. Using my best guesstimate at how much it would cost to get them to fully restored would be the last figure that will tell you if it's worth the buy or not. I bet you know this line of thought already if you've restored stuff previously. Let us know what you decide to do  :thumb:
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