2019 V-Strom DL250 stuck in third gear

[flyingcbf]

Hi Folks,
My second post. Unfortunately my bike is stuck in third gear. It has been playing up for sometime but things have got worse. I've held in the clutch lever but not joy. Rear wheel in continous spin. I've made a quick video so hope someone could point me in the right direction...

[kwackboy]

Looks like your gear selector has issues .

With your bike off , Rock the rear wheel back and forth and Try to change gears with your gear lever.

Doing this , may help you achieve neutral.

For your info, when running in gear,  the rear wheel will spin fast even if you pull the clutch in .

[Upt North]

Like Kwackers says, the clutch drag can be enough to turn the rear wheel. Especially with cold oil.
Also like the man says, if you get down with the engine off, rock the rear wheel back and forth with one hand and try and move to neutral with the other.
To eliminate a clutch issue get a willing volunteer to attempt to hold the rear wheel with the rear brake whilst you start it with the clutch pulled in. It shouldn't spin. You could do this yourself by doing it from the O/S as well I spose.
Good luck.
Upt.

[Upt North]

A little insight into how it hot stuck there in the first place might also be helpful.
Upt.

[Rusty Nuts]

Have you altered anything? Clutch cable, gear lever height, gear lever connecting link length, moved the clamp round on the splines?

[flyingcbf]

It was running fine until I gave the bike to my brother to check it. After that, it was having difficulty getting into gears especially from second to third. I brought it home and adjusted the clutch cable at the lever and near the engine. Perhaps that screwed it up even more. I took out the gear lever on the foot, cleaned it and re-greased.
I'll take it off the centre stand and rock back and forth to try and get it to neutral in the morning tommorow. Thanks

[porter]

Well as they say always go back to the last thing you worked at so its something your brother did!
 I know how he feels, I changed the oil in my brothers 800 mile old fireblade back in 98, took it a test ride and wrapped it round a tractor 5 mile later.  At least the oil was nice and clean as it leaked onto the road!

[flyingcbf]

Quote removed

OK, So I've got it off the centre stand and had it roll back and forth but still no good. Still stuck in 3rd.

[purplebikeunicorn]

Even with the clutch engaged (say if your clutch cable was broken), you should be able to knock it up and down through the gears by rocking the rear wheel back and forth by hand whilst you hold the lever in either direction (one gear at a time, then you need to return the lever to neutral). Ensure the bike ignition is OFF when you do this, if you turn the engine over enough it could start.

This does very much sound like the linkage is broken inside the engine, as long as the external linkage is OK - you must check it's actuating the gear change rod properly and not fouling on anything, such as if it was adjusted poorly.

[kwackboy]

By the looks of your video, the gear lever return spring, part number 20 is functioning properly however, my thoughts are that part number 18 is faulty. 

It's this that moves the selector drum through the gears, it's held in position by part numbers 19, 23 & 26, its somehow been dislodged from its correct position on the gear shaft which is causing your issues.
Sometimes this is caused by a fall of some kind.

If it was just worn you'd be able to change gear randomly and it's my feeling that part number 18 has lost its position on the gear shaft.

[flyingcbf]

OK fellas.
I'm not sure if I was to blame for this. I feel like a right lemon for doing this. When I got the bike, I thought I'd give the front and rear sprockets a clean with parafin (kerosine). I took off the front sprocket cover and sprayed a liberal amount of parafin. After a couple of minutes, I used a jet wash to wash it down. Both the front and rear sprocket.
Is it likely that the parafin ad water has gone into the gear system? 

[purplebikeunicorn]

I doubt it'd have caused a problem that's getting worse and worse. When your brother "checked it", did he ride it and possibly drop it?

It might be prudent to take it to a garage, or at least pop the clutch cover off (you'll need some replacement oil, and possibly a gasket).

[Brockett]

I very much doubt you could squirt enough water in through the seal to cause the problem. If water ingress is the problem, then that water would also be circulating around the engine as well.

[Upt North]

I think you need a conversation with your brother. Is he the sort who might have been very heavy on clutchless changes?
Just saying.
Upt.

[Brockett]

Something I did once. I adjusted the gear lever linkage to make way for my large boot and then found I could not select gears 2nd to top because the linkage was fouling the footrest bracket. It was therefore,  stuck in first gear. Fortunately I had only travelled a few yards when this became evident. In the video above I can't see any attempt to lift the gear lever (the operator is wearing sandals - not something for our winter nor for UK bike riding - work gloves and sandals albeit with socks. There is someing odd going on here ) 

[flyingcbf]

Quote removed

Yes, I did speak but he can't remember what he did :(. But believes he might have done something wrong

[Gert]

I just hope that you are not faced with a similar failure, as was discussed in https://www.v-strom.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=18427.0

[flyingcbf]

Can I re-use the clutch gasket if I open her up? It's 8000 on clock on a 2019 plate. Gasket itself is 50 quid!   

[mr_diver]

Unlikely as it will be stuck to one or both side of the case.

I've known a few people try and reuse a gasket that came off fairly intact - then ended up replacing it quite soon due to leaks.

Have a look for an aftermarket gasket, but you may struggle due to the lower sales volume of the 250cc not creating much demand.

EDIT: I worked on a Suzuki parts desk for a while, is surprising what you can find when you look.

The part number would appear to be 11482-48H00-000
https://www.bike-parts-suz.com/Suzuki-motorcycle/assignment_spare_parts/1148248H00000

ebay:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/335282274377?fits=UKM_CCM%3A250%7CUKM_StreetName%3AInazuma&itmmeta=01HV95NXD98KC190SGCD3G28FV&hash=item4e10618049:g:RS8AAOSwDDtl4bov&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8LnmzVbmoZtipB%2BSJydPD1uxv54SBVPxl3NRYUoQzc7gASrtVEOZgFUiJNTwzzdjBbmoUfmDwWWAW0Xm2v5T6mN%2BW78l2z%2FtmJwZ1kqpLz3AAzwoQ3TOmU4NOP4kXEPpY1Bxo8emTQX7nXomIu%2FbGmzyJJTACuklL7RnthO64oNuWdvPwtL63GXrQNAJxDUbZhs2SBRhRWt2x3W9XNZde5Ic5AxxEppUm01tY5LZ66VZBIsDcDTl%2BNY6oAXYFeY6zue%2FsdUYrJ12qb2DdWzZLJxHqESdKQeIF0M5KjruhDyNTc%2FZivcISxXOUoPdV3fO8Q%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR97W16XaYw

[purplebikeunicorn]

I love a good parts number rabbit hole!

Especially the "standard parts" part numbers where you can figure out the size of bolts from the number