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2020 Austria GP incident
« on: August 20, 2020, 14:45:02 »
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Re: 2020 Austria GP incident
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2020, 15:00:16 »
😱 so very lucky no one was hurt could have been carnage.


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Re: 2020 Austria GP incident
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2020, 15:10:16 »
Shocking moment for MotoGP ..

Rossi and viñales are two very lucky riders, I'm convinced one of them would have been killed if the flying bikes had hit them .  :crazy:
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Re: 2020 Austria GP incident
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2020, 16:18:10 »
Hafizh Syahrin's one in the Moto 2 a little earlier on Sunday was also pretty worrying - it was a while before we saw Hafizh was OK as the cameras were quite rightly switched away from the scene.


For a change, the crash happy Moto 3 boys were pretty well behaved.
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Re: 2020 Austria GP incident
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2020, 16:29:35 »
bike riding in all forms is dangerous,, but why is there not a catch fence where the bikes got back onto the track ?????

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Re: 2020 Austria GP incident
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2020, 16:49:24 »
One came right up the kerb line so where would you put a fence that didn't pose a greater danger to riders?
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Re: 2020 Austria GP incident
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2020, 17:06:05 »
it didn't, it came inside the white line and there could be a position for a catchment fence that does not encroach on riding lines.. plus a catchment does not need to be solid, collapsible

plus look at the racing line it is on the other side of the track, no accident nobody would be near the left hand kerb in the video..

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Re: 2020 Austria GP incident
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2020, 17:28:45 »
The Petronas bike was right up the line and partially over it on the track side the whole way up the straight from turn 2: if you watch the Moto 3 race, you'll see them over that kerb whilst racing so the fence needed to catch Franco's bike would have nailed a few of them. Bit harsh a penalty for being nudged over the line.
Catch fences were done away with on tracks long ago because they were a bigger danger. You end up with posts flailing around to impale people and an entangled rider to extricate from netting strong enough to catch a 200mph bike before they expire.

Moto GP have said they'll extend the air fence and that's something the riders don't seem to want:

"In response to this, MotoGP will extend the air fence on the outside of Turn 3 to create a block for the entire corner in a bid to avoid any potential repeat of last Sunday’s terrifying accident.
This was an idea put to some of the riders post-race on Sunday by the media, with LCR’s Cal Crutchlow highlighting the risks of extending the air fence.
"If you put a catch fence there, if you extend that catch fence, what happens if you run off track? The place is not safe," Crutchlow said last Sunday.
"Unfortunately, there's no way around [the Turn 3 problem] because the riders would say [if] you extend that there and you make a mistake... imagine in the wet?
"Just running off the track there or something like that and you're alone in the practice, you can potentially go across the grass, go straight, whatever.
"But if you put something there you ride straight into it. We're in a no-win situation unfortunately in regards to that.
"I'm shocked at seeing it, I'm shocked at what happened. And I don't know what they can do."

If there was something easy that could be done, it would have happened after Sato lost it going into that corner in 2002 and hit Heidfeld square on. The gravel traps are extended but that's about all they could do clearly.
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Re: 2020 Austria GP incident
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2020, 17:40:01 »
I bow to your knowledge,,  but some kind of catchment must be able to be deployed especially as the racing line is a full track width away and the only people on the other side of the track are already in trouble.. IMHO..

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Re: 2020 Austria GP incident
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2020, 17:52:27 »
A similar incident happened back in 2002 , it was an F1 race , they did nothing about it .

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Re: 2020 Austria GP incident
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2020, 18:02:59 »
yep, and I still maintain they "could" do something because whatever they did is a track width away from the racing line..  :shrug: :shrug: :shrug:


They could do what they do on the Isle of Man and put a drystone wall there ??   :grin: :GRR:

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Re: 2020 Austria GP incident
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2020, 19:56:07 »
Moto 3 disagree with your concept of a racing line...



That's turn 2 Austria.
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Re: 2020 Austria GP incident
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2020, 20:00:34 »
anti-collision sensors lol...
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Re: 2020 Austria GP incident
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2020, 20:10:10 »
A similar incident happened back in 2002 , it was an F1 race , they did nothing about it .

That's the Sato / Heidfeld incident I mentioned: the gravel trap in '02 stopped at the access road into the marshal post with 4 thin bars after (french drains I think), now it's continuous up to the corner, so there was some small change. The problem with building the barrier further out at the corner itself is that they'd arrive at it head-on, rather than the oblique angle needed to contain the vehicle without turning the human into mush with a 100G stop.
Seems pearl asbo orange is faster after all....

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