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Title: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: bonne on March 28, 2021, 23:33:02
Any suggestions on topic?
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: tallpaul on March 29, 2021, 06:59:13
I have a pair of Hood jeans. Very comfy and fully lined, not just at so-called impact points. The only downside to that (according to some) is they are warmer than the others. As a bona-fide wuss I like being warm, so like them even more for that reason. Price is reasonable too, in my opinion. Selling Rokkertech jeans for £300+ is expensive. The Hoods cost me about half that.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Rixington43 on March 29, 2021, 08:16:41
I have some Drayko (Draggin under a different name I believe) Razzo jeans.
Very comfortable as they have a mesh liner so the Aramid never touches your skin.
They are warm and fairly heavy but they feel strong and secure, armour is easy to fit although it is sold separately.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: alan29 on March 29, 2021, 10:21:30
I've got these.
have never tested them in anger, but they are comfortable and not as hot as Draggin Jeans.
https://resurgencegear.net/products/resurgence-gear-r-2020-city-chino-mens-pekev-motorcycle-trousers-black
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Domenico on March 29, 2021, 11:09:53
Two years ago I bought PMJ - Promo Jeans Titanium certif. Level 2, safe, comfortable and well taylored
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: bonne on March 29, 2021, 11:23:12
A local shop actually sells a lot of draggin. often with discount. Are they really that good? I see a lot of marketing material praising them... making me think something is wrong. (:
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Rixington43 on March 29, 2021, 11:49:41
I suspect their retail prices are a little inflated based on them being the self proclaimed 'original' aramid bike jeans.
I certainly bought them based on reviews and tests suggesting they offered a very good level of protection and have found them to be comfortable and well fitting. I am willing to accept the extra weight on the understanding that weight and protection are always going to correlate to some degree when everyone is making their jeans out of similar materials.
Do they actually work as well as claimed? Frankly I hope I never find out ;)

* I bought mine heavily discounted from eBay, wouldn't have coughed at rrp.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: ShaunM on March 29, 2021, 16:00:15
Anyone had any experience of Roadskin jeans?  British, direct to the public and  seems to be a good price for AAA approved jeans. 
However, I'm a new rider (used to wearing textile three seasons gear) and never had armoured jeans, so a bit wary it all sounds too good to be true!?
https://roadskin.co.uk/product/paranoid-jeans/
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Rixington43 on March 29, 2021, 16:31:20
Good article about ratings and constructions which happens to mention the Roadskin jeans, although not review them specifically.
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/features/product/motorbike-riding-jeans-denim-truth-ce-test-misleading-motorcycle-kevlar-dyneema

Protection will always be a compromise with comfort (and I dare say style).
My compromise was part lined jeans with a very heavy liner, I figured these would give me the most protection in key areas and make up the cooling in the unprotected areas (I never run low cut boots for instance).
The testing regimes can't predict what other gear you're running so an AA rated jean without lining below the knees may be just as protective to someone in high boots as the AAA fully lined is if you're running low boots.
Like most products I guess, define your use case and go from there.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Relevant11 on March 29, 2021, 19:15:55
I’ve had the road skin jeans for a few years now, they’re a little thicker being fully lined with Kevlar but I kind of like that. Breathe very well  on hot days and surprisingly when caught out in an unexpected down pour didn’t wet out immediately . Well made and v robust .
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: UK_Vstrom650 on March 29, 2021, 21:05:24
I'm sure I read in Ride magazine that motorcycle jeans are only recommended for use around town, and the PPE tests are based on the equivalent of  c.30mph offs.
(I can cycle faster than that...)
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: bonne on March 29, 2021, 21:37:26
I am not planning on crashing with my trousers...  :smirk:

I get your point. I do have a full suit for normal tours... but if summer gets really warm, the suit will get too warm. Jeans are instead of riding in shorts like I have seen people do in the South.  :crazy:
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: vstroman on March 29, 2021, 22:56:54
I got these from Helmet city, Bull-it SR6 Mens Jeans, around £60, great jeans very comfy, can't say how good they'd be if you fell off though, might protect you in a slide but nothing will really save you if you hit something hard.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: WeeStromer on April 01, 2021, 05:45:08
+1 to the Road Skins. I picked them up at the bike show two years ago. They're a good fit and not too warm when the sun is out.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: bonne on April 01, 2021, 23:25:02
But after you left EU it is hard to buy in UK shops.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: timangus on April 02, 2021, 17:24:16
I had Roadskin jeans for my RTW trip, and they saved my lower half when I crashed in Kazakhstan. I have a pair of Bull It Covec jeans now which are well made and have better pockets for the armour. They are a bit heavy though and I shall likely buy another pair of Roadskins to finish the trip next year. I wore the Roadskins in rain and 105 degree heat and nearly every day for over a year and you can’t ask for any better than that.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: vstroman on April 04, 2021, 09:29:42
How fast were you going when you crashed and were you on dirt or tarmac?
The Bull-it covec are heavy alright, I think in very hot conditions I'd want proper vented mesh trousers.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: TLPower on April 05, 2021, 06:46:04
Another Bul-it Covec rider here, yes they are heavy, yes they are "warm" but they are more comfortable than my leathers with very similar protection. I too have CE inserts fitted.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: timangus on April 05, 2021, 17:57:31
I was doing over 50mph when the bike hit the edge of the road I was trying to join. We went airborne and came crashing down on tarmac. The Roadskin jeans and Forma boots saved my lower half, but the Klim jacket with its D30 armour didn’t stop me getting a badly broken collarbone, 6 broken ribs and a punctured lung.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Rixington43 on April 05, 2021, 18:02:49
Crikey, that sounds like a right 'moment'.
Whilst I'm obviously not glad to hear anyone has had cause to test their PPE, it's reassuring to know this Kevlar lark does the business when called upon.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: vstroman on April 05, 2021, 21:08:00
Sorry to hear that, I don't think any jacket will protect you from a direct impact, a good helmet can obviously save your life, I seem to ride in the Bullit Covec jeans all the time they are so comfy, sometimes pull a set of waterproofs over them if it's cold or showery, I have leather and textile pants but never really seem to use them.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Freddyfruitbat on April 06, 2021, 15:35:49
the Klim jacket with its D30 armour didn’t stop me getting a badly broken collarbone, 6 broken ribs and a punctured lung.
Your off sounds extremely similar to one I had 3 years ago, only I was wearing an airbag vest (Helite Turtle) at the time. In my case, I still got the broken collar bone (from landing on my shoulder I suspect, though I have no memory of the impact), but my remaining injuries were confined to some bruised ribs.   So I happily put up with the ribbing and rolling eyes from 'cooler' riders eying up my airbag kit at coffee stops...
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Reddevil on April 18, 2021, 15:29:39
Just bought a pair of Bull-it covec jeans (mainly for riding around town on my Bobber) looked at many reviews of bike denim and needed to replace my rather ancient Draggin jeans. Tried many makes on and some especially the Oxford ones looked ridiculous, the best for me seemed the Bull-it ones and bargain price of £69.99
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: rus998 on May 12, 2021, 03:50:28
Draggin Jeans and yes I have tested them in a 95 MPH off on a Belgium motorway. They stood up very well and did not go through the Kevlar.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Mac1 on May 12, 2021, 08:42:53
I have heard good reports on hood as well. Good aftersales service and british made. I will be going that route soon
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: 2112 on September 25, 2021, 18:24:34
I'm a big fan of the Bull-it kit, my mate 'tested' a set last year and they passed with flying colours. His leather jacket ripped causing a nasty cut on his arm though.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Blackscorpion on June 19, 2023, 18:59:57

Knox Richmond jeans. Superb.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Domenico on July 07, 2023, 20:50:25
PMJ Deux

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR3WgQPwY8o&t=37s

This my second pair of jeans by PMJ, not cheap (%u20AC 230), but extremely comfortable and safe.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Mojo-Jojo on July 08, 2023, 02:22:07
Rokker jeans, single skin so they don't feel like you're wearing a nappy, slim fit and extremely comfortable.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Phild on July 08, 2023, 13:27:09
I’d been looking at getting a pair of jean / cargo type trousers for sometime. A few months ago I visited SBS in Bristol and tried four different brands on. Oxford, Bull-it, RST and one other I can’t remember the brand. Prices were between £130 and £250.

I took off my textiles to try them on and found them all heavier and warmer than the textile trousers (lining removed) I’d just taken off. No vents in them so no way of at least trying to get some fresh air around my parts.

Maybe I’ll have a look at a couple more brands before I write off the idea completely.🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: nigel s on July 08, 2023, 13:44:21
I met up with a couple of blokes when I was feeding my face at a M&S petrol station/cafe, one on a harley bagger and one on a Triumph rocket 3, and the bloke on the rocket said he wore Dragging (or whatever they were) jeans because it means he can geŧ into posh places without raising eyebrows?

OK..........

I smiled and said that's nice :grin:

Ho Hum


Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Phild on July 08, 2023, 14:06:34
He was right…..not just any old petrol station….a M&S petrol station (remember the M&S ads of old?😁) Only one down from a Waitrose pull in….some would say.🤷‍♂️🤣
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: nigel s on July 08, 2023, 15:23:14
I live in Norfolk so they even let my type into the local Waitrose :thumb:
Though the blokes accompanying the Yummie Mummies seem to find me a threat and look daggers.
Not so much the ladies themselves ?


Ho Hum
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: chrisj on July 22, 2023, 10:48:13
I've got Oxford jeans. I find that once you're on the bike and moving you do get quite a bit of air flow through the fabric, so they are a lot cooler than my textiles, even though they aren't super cold while stationary.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: porter on July 22, 2023, 18:13:12
I just bought some RST x pro jeans the other day. Not used them on the bike as yet but they feel comfortable and protective. 
I tried on the single layer jeans but I didn't feel safe probably because I always wear leather trousers. We'll see how I get on, if it ever stops raining!
Ps my local bike shop has started charging you 10 pounds to try stuff on, then gives it off if you buy!
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Rusty Nuts on July 22, 2023, 18:38:35
£10 to try!! I can understand why in a way. My mate works at Sportsbikeshop in Leeds,  he says people just use the shop to check sizing, then go and buy online. A bit rotten, but so is charging to try. Imagine the furore if M&S did that, or Next.


Is it even legal?
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: porter on July 23, 2023, 09:35:28
Don't know about the legality of it all but I guess it's to stop the try on but buy online crowd, of which I'm one sometimes I must admit.
 I looked at helmets also and noticed the double D rings where done up then cable tied!
 Time to look for another shop, but this one is handy and they don't sell bikes so I don't get side tracked!
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: timangus on August 24, 2023, 18:06:02
Just paid real cash for a pair of Roadskin Taranis Jeans. They are AAA rated and come with level 2 hip and knee armour fitted.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: kwackboy on August 24, 2023, 20:53:53
£10 to try!! I can understand why in a way. My mate works at Sportsbikeshop in Leeds,  he says people just use the shop to check sizing, then go and buy online. A bit rotten, but so is charging to try. Imagine the furore if M&S did that, or Next.


Is it even legal?

My mate runs sportsbikeshop Harlow. He gets the same however,  people try on gear and then buy them from sportsbikeshop website thinking they get a better deal..  :crazy:
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Rusty Nuts on August 24, 2023, 21:00:27
They can use PayPal Credit online, but not in the shops. Silly thing is, people go in, try for size, walk out, order cheaper.... But SBS will price match most items. Worse, people will buy from abroad then whinge at import duty, customs, etc.... SBS seem like a decent outfit, we'd all grumble if they shut down due to online shopping.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: UK_Vstrom650 on August 24, 2023, 21:28:21
Lots of bicycle shops do better deals online on their own website than in the showroom. Boils my p***

I asked SBS to price match a Neotec 2 and Cardo head unit to Infinity Motorcycles as it was £20 cheaper, but they wouldn't as the helmet was a different colour (I said I didn't care about colour so they could pick but it wasn't like-for-like).
But apart from that, I always buy from SBS, staff are friendly and after sales is fab
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Phild on August 25, 2023, 08:52:50
How much did you pay for your Roadskin’s Timangus?

They’ve got an offer on at the moment, £179.99 and they throw in a set of gloves worth £49.99.

I’m contemplating taking the plunge.👍
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: timangus on August 25, 2023, 09:15:42
I negotiated a bit off, as I didn’t need the gloves. They looked good though and well worth the asking price for both. They are cheaper as they only sell direct so don’t have a retail mark up for shops. They use a company in Germany for the armour, so its all EU certified.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Phild on August 25, 2023, 10:24:13
The two pairs of gloves I use for touring are looking very sad now……and they’ve got ‘Honda’ written on them.😱

I think I’ll wait until I’ve had a few beers over the weekend, then go shopping whilst still under the influence…..seems less painful that way.😉
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Fife Davie on October 20, 2023, 11:40:59
Expensive but John Doe Full Aramid are as comfortable as you will get.
I need another pair as the denim has worn through on the Donkey after 6 years of never taking them off.
Highly recommended as they don't look bike specific, they look like normal jeans
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: NeilM on November 13, 2023, 07:04:27
Phil, take a trip to Last Years Gear in Bridgwater.

They might have something suitable and even if they don't it's always worth checking out the bargains.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Phild on December 11, 2023, 17:00:52
I’ve not heard of them before Neil.

I’ll try and get there before Christmas.👍

My son got a great deal when he renewed his riding gear from Motorcycle Megastore in their big twice a year sale. He paid £179 for a set of Spidi textiles. The trousers alone were £299 in Sports Bike Shop at the time. I looked for some jeans, but none left in my size.🤷‍♂️