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Oily Rag - Dedicated to Pat, Greywolf. 26/06/45 - 04/06/18 => Tyres => Topic started by: DLMatt58 on December 29, 2019, 15:42:49

Title: Best tyres
Post by: DLMatt58 on December 29, 2019, 15:42:49
I am wanting some new tyres I have metzler all terrains on at the moment but I don't do much in the way of touring anymore so I want to get something a bit more sporty any suggestion.
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: Mad Malone on December 29, 2019, 16:28:42
I use bridgestone bt21 on all my bikes,good grip dry or wet and last well ,not expensive.
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: DLMatt58 on December 29, 2019, 16:43:10
Thanks for the reply I've heard they are good I'll have a look into them
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: Ianmc on December 29, 2019, 18:51:56
I thought 021’s had been superceded by 023 now.I was using 021’s on my Pan at least 8yrs ago.BTW 023’s are great on the wee.
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: mr_diver on December 29, 2019, 19:53:07
Yes the 021's haven't been made for quite a few years.
Any still around would be a fair few years old.

The 023 is a far better dual compound tyre.
We even get 4.5k out of a rear on the GSX1400, and I do give it some stick.
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: pb on December 30, 2019, 14:37:23
I'm on my second 023 on the rear, first one did about 7,500 miles which I was pleased with as they are not too expensive, front was changed at the same time as the first one went on and still has another 4 or 5000 miles left.
As already mentioned good grip even in the wet and not dear.  :lala:
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: Mad Malone on December 30, 2019, 16:58:46
Senior brain I've got 023s on my bikes. :old:
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: mr_diver on December 30, 2019, 22:42:08
The 020 and 021 I swear were made of stained oak they felt that wooden.

The old man's deauville handled like a pig until I stuck on a pair of Pilot Road 1's and it then went around corners.
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: Sage on December 30, 2019, 22:49:07
You won't go far wrong with virtually any sport touring tyre from any of the major brands, the newer the tyre the better they usually are.

If cost is a concern then I've found Avon Storms or the latest Spirit to be good balance of price,longevity and grip. Had them on a few different bikes now, but everyone has their own preferences.
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: mrp192 on January 21, 2020, 09:50:48
I have just come to the end of my second pair of Michelin PR4s and changing them has been forced on me by a rear wheel puncture at the weekend. My local tyre fella, SPS at Horsford, Norwich, is an excellent source of information and as the PR4s no longer available in 19”, and didn’t want the PR5s, I asked about the BT23s.
He advises that the BT23, although still available, has been superseded twice.
I asked for a comparison to the Michelin’s and he stated that the performance of the BT23 was comparable to the PR3, the next gen T30 the PR4 and latest T31 the PR5.
As on a budget I opted for the T30, £215 fitted on a ride in ride out basis, and although only done about 40 miles of slimy roads I could already feel it’s another good tyre.
Can’t recommend SPS at Horsford highly enough if you are in the Norfolk area.
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: mr_diver on January 21, 2020, 12:15:18
He is correct, but speaking to the man at Bridgstone the BT023 was such a good and long lived tyre that they were slow sellers.
The newer T30 was a softer compound that did grip marginally better but lasted significantly less miles than the 023. Thus faster selling.

I have the 023 on SWMBO's muscle bike and they stick like glue and last 4.5-5k rear on it. Many other last 2-3k.

The difference between the T30 and the T31 is the tread pattern. Nothing else.

Same with the A40 and A41 though the A41 does come in a wider range of sizes.
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: mrp192 on January 22, 2020, 17:56:42
Well my T30s had a good test today! 55 miles of all road types putting an RoSPA associate through a mock test. Both he and my new tyres were excellent despite roads varying from slippery to very slippery.
Really pleased with the choice and don’t miss my PR4s so much now.
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: vstroman on January 22, 2020, 18:41:13
How come you didn't fancy the Road 5's mrp192, was it because they were that bit more expensive than the Bridgestone?
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: mrp192 on January 22, 2020, 19:43:00
Quite a bit more expensive but also I’ve seen several reports saying they are very good but don’t last very long. In a nutshell they are probably more than I need as I’ve got quite sedate in my old age.
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: vstroman on January 22, 2020, 20:34:26
I've got 11,500 miles on the Road 5 front, the last rear lasted 8,500,  got 3000 now on the replacement rear so kind of  hoping the front will last this rear out too!! never got mileage like this from a tyre before, I ride fairly calmly myself nowadays too.
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: mrp192 on January 22, 2020, 23:06:43
I was getting about 9500 from my PR4s, wearing the fronts out as quickly as the rears so 8500 isn’t too bad.
I have read several posts on people getting a lot less mileage out of the 5s and some people wearing the softer edges out a lot quicker than the central band.
Since I stopped commuting when I retired, I’m a lot easier on my tyres as I aim to ride as many twisty roads as possible,rather than the dual carriageway I used to commute on. Means they wear more evenly but might explain while I’m wearing the fronts as quickly as the rears.
I’m happy so far with these T30s so will have to see how many miles I get out of them, hopefully similar to the PR4s.
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: timangus on January 23, 2020, 22:40:11
Following advise from Ride In Tyres of Reading I am going for T30’s. They offer them fitted and balanced to loose wheels for £215.
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: Mattwprice on January 24, 2020, 20:45:00
Following advise from Ride In Tyres of Reading I am going for T30’s. They offer them fitted and balanced to loose wheels for £215.
That's where I got my BW 023's last year.  Good price. Good service. Good tyre (as far as I can tell!) Nice chap.
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: joethebike on January 24, 2020, 23:59:58
No one mentions the Metzeler Roadtec 01 as a suitable road tyre on the Vstrom which surprises me after the performance of my current set which replaced Michelin PR4s.

The rear has done 12,300 km and should make it to 14K at least with the front at 11,000 with expectations of 15K at least.
Truly excellent grip wet or dry and they will be replaced by the newly released upgraded version when required.

My friends Ducati ST4s has Michelin PR5s and their life has been short with the front especially bad.
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: UK_Vstrom650 on January 27, 2020, 17:58:00
My Dunlop Roadsmart 3s are now at 17,919 miles  :shock: Unsurprisingly the rear needs changing but there's still plenty of tread left on the front.

[The majority of those miles have been motorway  :bawl: so it's hard to know when they squared off]
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: TLPower on January 27, 2020, 18:40:26
That's very impressive for Roadsmarts. :thumb:
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: UK_Vstrom650 on February 18, 2020, 21:31:21
18,816 miles on these Dunlop Roadsmart 3s now... pics below.

I was going to fit them again however the local tyre shop doesn't have them in, though do have Roadtec 01s for £229 (loose wheels), or with Metzlers offer for fitting costs = £234 (ride in/out) or Michelin Road 5 trail £245 (ride in/out) bike with Michelin's offer. Dunlops would be  £239 loose/£274 on bike (they were £216 loose wheels in July 2017).

I think I may go for the Roadtecs and see how I get on...



Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: TLPower on February 19, 2020, 05:28:55
 :bow-blue: 18.8k is excellent, my front lasted 7.5k, rear just over 5k. I replaced them with more of the same.
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: vstroman on August 12, 2020, 00:49:50
No one mentions the Metzeler Roadtec 01 as a suitable road tyre on the Vstrom which surprises me after the performance of my current set which replaced Michelin PR4s.

The rear has done 12,300 km and should make it to 14K at least with the front at 11,000 with expectations of 15K at least.
Truly excellent grip wet or dry and they will be replaced by the newly released upgraded version when required.

My friends Ducati ST4s has Michelin PR5s and their life has been short with the front especially bad.

I think I read somewhere that the Roadtec 01 are made in China, they are probably fine but I'd prefer a tyre made in Europe.
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: joethebike on August 12, 2020, 22:56:18
My new rear Roadtec 01 put on last week is stamped Made in Germany. The old one did 14880km just nudging the wear bars.
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: Mr Nick on August 13, 2020, 09:46:31
And the next one might well say somewhere else as the bigger producers will have multiple plants. The Pirellis on the KTM are Brazil front & Germany rear, and the Continentals that came off the TS are Korean.
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: davef on August 19, 2020, 13:25:29
Was pleased to see the Avon Trailriders I fitted are made in the uk. They seem good to me.
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: Tusker on August 19, 2020, 14:48:48
I'm having Michelin 5GT's fitted next Monday( well liked on the Kwack forum) recommended by someone on here I will take advice from !!!!!     I believe they are the Road PR5 upgrade, bit pricey       I'm on 120/70 190/50  or they are made for the heavier bikes..  I get confused  :old: :old: anyway they are ordered..
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: TLPower on August 19, 2020, 17:10:36
Don't forget to have 90 degree valves fitted at the same time. :thumb:
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: Tusker on August 19, 2020, 17:20:19
well reminded !!! I'd  :dl_ninite: :dl_ninite: since,,   thanks TLPower :thumb:
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: Adamsale on August 20, 2020, 19:18:13
Nearly came a cropper after fitting 90 degree valves... it certainly made inflation a much easier task. However the valves must have leaked after I discovered tyre pressure had fallen to 18psi during a 70 mile ride. I spoke to my local MB shop contact who fits tyres and he commented they should only be used for inflation and removed when completed. I may have not tighten them sufficiently in the first place or did something incorrectly but that was my experience of them. Stay safe.
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: Tusker on August 20, 2020, 19:39:53
Adamsale,, think we are talking two different things,, 90 degree metal fitments attached whilst you blow tyres up then should be removed and actual 90 degree valves fitted into the wheel ...
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: Adamsale on August 20, 2020, 22:27:52
Ah thanks for putting me right on that one. You live and learn👍
Title: Re: Best tyres
Post by: user650 on August 20, 2020, 23:18:56
Graham62 will be along soon to explain the dangers of leaving the 90% adapters on  :thumb: (Devon trip)