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Title: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: bonne on March 28, 2021, 23:33:02
Any suggestions on topic?
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: tallpaul on March 29, 2021, 06:59:13
I have a pair of Hood jeans. Very comfy and fully lined, not just at so-called impact points. The only downside to that (according to some) is they are warmer than the others. As a bona-fide wuss I like being warm, so like them even more for that reason. Price is reasonable too, in my opinion. Selling Rokkertech jeans for £300+ is expensive. The Hoods cost me about half that.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Rixington43 on March 29, 2021, 08:16:41
I have some Drayko (Draggin under a different name I believe) Razzo jeans.
Very comfortable as they have a mesh liner so the Aramid never touches your skin.
They are warm and fairly heavy but they feel strong and secure, armour is easy to fit although it is sold separately.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: alan29 on March 29, 2021, 10:21:30
I've got these.
have never tested them in anger, but they are comfortable and not as hot as Draggin Jeans.
https://resurgencegear.net/products/resurgence-gear-r-2020-city-chino-mens-pekev-motorcycle-trousers-black
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Domenico on March 29, 2021, 11:09:53
Two years ago I bought PMJ - Promo Jeans Titanium certif. Level 2, safe, comfortable and well taylored
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: bonne on March 29, 2021, 11:23:12
A local shop actually sells a lot of draggin. often with discount. Are they really that good? I see a lot of marketing material praising them... making me think something is wrong. (:
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Rixington43 on March 29, 2021, 11:49:41
I suspect their retail prices are a little inflated based on them being the self proclaimed 'original' aramid bike jeans.
I certainly bought them based on reviews and tests suggesting they offered a very good level of protection and have found them to be comfortable and well fitting. I am willing to accept the extra weight on the understanding that weight and protection are always going to correlate to some degree when everyone is making their jeans out of similar materials.
Do they actually work as well as claimed? Frankly I hope I never find out ;)

* I bought mine heavily discounted from eBay, wouldn't have coughed at rrp.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: ShaunM on March 29, 2021, 16:00:15
Anyone had any experience of Roadskin jeans?  British, direct to the public and  seems to be a good price for AAA approved jeans. 
However, I'm a new rider (used to wearing textile three seasons gear) and never had armoured jeans, so a bit wary it all sounds too good to be true!?
https://roadskin.co.uk/product/paranoid-jeans/
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Rixington43 on March 29, 2021, 16:31:20
Good article about ratings and constructions which happens to mention the Roadskin jeans, although not review them specifically.
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/features/product/motorbike-riding-jeans-denim-truth-ce-test-misleading-motorcycle-kevlar-dyneema

Protection will always be a compromise with comfort (and I dare say style).
My compromise was part lined jeans with a very heavy liner, I figured these would give me the most protection in key areas and make up the cooling in the unprotected areas (I never run low cut boots for instance).
The testing regimes can't predict what other gear you're running so an AA rated jean without lining below the knees may be just as protective to someone in high boots as the AAA fully lined is if you're running low boots.
Like most products I guess, define your use case and go from there.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Relevant11 on March 29, 2021, 19:15:55
I’ve had the road skin jeans for a few years now, they’re a little thicker being fully lined with Kevlar but I kind of like that. Breathe very well  on hot days and surprisingly when caught out in an unexpected down pour didn’t wet out immediately . Well made and v robust .
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: UK_Vstrom650 on March 29, 2021, 21:05:24
I'm sure I read in Ride magazine that motorcycle jeans are only recommended for use around town, and the PPE tests are based on the equivalent of  c.30mph offs.
(I can cycle faster than that...)
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: bonne on March 29, 2021, 21:37:26
I am not planning on crashing with my trousers...  :smirk:

I get your point. I do have a full suit for normal tours... but if summer gets really warm, the suit will get too warm. Jeans are instead of riding in shorts like I have seen people do in the South.  :crazy:
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: vstroman on March 29, 2021, 22:56:54
I got these from Helmet city, Bull-it SR6 Mens Jeans, around £60, great jeans very comfy, can't say how good they'd be if you fell off though, might protect you in a slide but nothing will really save you if you hit something hard.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: WeeStromer on April 01, 2021, 05:45:08
+1 to the Road Skins. I picked them up at the bike show two years ago. They're a good fit and not too warm when the sun is out.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: bonne on April 01, 2021, 23:25:02
But after you left EU it is hard to buy in UK shops.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: timangus on April 02, 2021, 17:24:16
I had Roadskin jeans for my RTW trip, and they saved my lower half when I crashed in Kazakhstan. I have a pair of Bull It Covec jeans now which are well made and have better pockets for the armour. They are a bit heavy though and I shall likely buy another pair of Roadskins to finish the trip next year. I wore the Roadskins in rain and 105 degree heat and nearly every day for over a year and you can’t ask for any better than that.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: vstroman on April 04, 2021, 09:29:42
How fast were you going when you crashed and were you on dirt or tarmac?
The Bull-it covec are heavy alright, I think in very hot conditions I'd want proper vented mesh trousers.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: TLPower on April 05, 2021, 06:46:04
Another Bul-it Covec rider here, yes they are heavy, yes they are "warm" but they are more comfortable than my leathers with very similar protection. I too have CE inserts fitted.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: timangus on April 05, 2021, 17:57:31
I was doing over 50mph when the bike hit the edge of the road I was trying to join. We went airborne and came crashing down on tarmac. The Roadskin jeans and Forma boots saved my lower half, but the Klim jacket with its D30 armour didn’t stop me getting a badly broken collarbone, 6 broken ribs and a punctured lung.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Rixington43 on April 05, 2021, 18:02:49
Crikey, that sounds like a right 'moment'.
Whilst I'm obviously not glad to hear anyone has had cause to test their PPE, it's reassuring to know this Kevlar lark does the business when called upon.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: vstroman on April 05, 2021, 21:08:00
Sorry to hear that, I don't think any jacket will protect you from a direct impact, a good helmet can obviously save your life, I seem to ride in the Bullit Covec jeans all the time they are so comfy, sometimes pull a set of waterproofs over them if it's cold or showery, I have leather and textile pants but never really seem to use them.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Freddyfruitbat on April 06, 2021, 15:35:49
the Klim jacket with its D30 armour didn’t stop me getting a badly broken collarbone, 6 broken ribs and a punctured lung.
Your off sounds extremely similar to one I had 3 years ago, only I was wearing an airbag vest (Helite Turtle) at the time. In my case, I still got the broken collar bone (from landing on my shoulder I suspect, though I have no memory of the impact), but my remaining injuries were confined to some bruised ribs.   So I happily put up with the ribbing and rolling eyes from 'cooler' riders eying up my airbag kit at coffee stops...
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Reddevil on April 18, 2021, 15:29:39
Just bought a pair of Bull-it covec jeans (mainly for riding around town on my Bobber) looked at many reviews of bike denim and needed to replace my rather ancient Draggin jeans. Tried many makes on and some especially the Oxford ones looked ridiculous, the best for me seemed the Bull-it ones and bargain price of £69.99
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: rus998 on May 12, 2021, 03:50:28
Draggin Jeans and yes I have tested them in a 95 MPH off on a Belgium motorway. They stood up very well and did not go through the Kevlar.
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: Mac1 on May 12, 2021, 08:42:53
I have heard good reports on hood as well. Good aftersales service and british made. I will be going that route soon
Title: Re: High safety (yet as comfy as possible) jeans
Post by: 2112 on September 25, 2021, 18:24:34
I'm a big fan of the Bull-it kit, my mate 'tested' a set last year and they passed with flying colours. His leather jacket ripped causing a nasty cut on his arm though.