Suzuki V-Strom (VStrom) Owners Club DL250, DL650, DL1000 & DL1050
V-Strom specific discussion => V-Strom specific discussion => Topic started by: Fat Rat on March 24, 2020, 16:07:24
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I have spent some time over the last few weeks titivating a neglected 57 plate DL1000, this includes;
New Battery
Clutch
Clutch Slave Cylinder rebuild
New OE Rotors on the front
Front Calipers completely rebuilt
New Pads front a rear
Chain & Sprockets
12 months MOT
Today I took it out for a test ride after I finished putting back together after waiting for a new Water Pump seal.
Anyway, I was busy congratulating myself on how it was running as I pulled it into the mancave, only to quickly realise it was on fire :dl_hyperhysteria:
It started under the seat so I am at the moment assuming a wiring issue. It took two full extinguishers to put it out. I honestly thought the mancave was going to go up.
Fuuuuucccccccck.
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Not a Firestorm then? :shock:
At least it should have killed off any lingering Corvid. :)
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That's a Black Frame for you.
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If you are OK, then it's just experience !! and the bonus is "NO Spiders"
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Keep the sympathy coming folks...
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That's what happens when you disobey Boris.
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Spider's revenge!
Lucky your arse wasn't still on it Andy, and 10 miles from home
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Wow ..lucky :shock:
Hope the loom is fixable...
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At least it happened at home. If it was at the roadside it would have been a pile of scrap.
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Glad you are OK. You got that 3rd Party, FIRE, and theft insurance. :fix:
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That's what happens when you disobey Boris.
lol
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Bonus selling point: heated seat...
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First recorded use by police of an RPG to enforce stay at home instruction?
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In my defence, I was dropping some disposable gloves down to my daughter (she lives two miles away) and I posted them through the door, so no contact, other than the potential of the Fire Service :roll:
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Everything must go...
Yep it's a firesale!
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Oh, bugger. When will you get a chance to a) assess the damage and b) find the cause?
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I liked the look of CJ, I like the yellow but,
How much for the singed one?
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I think it's snow foam on a slow news day. :smirk:
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So, any result of your investigation yet?
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It's only a slow news day for those who've been sat at home all day with time to read / watch it all.
And where was Karen with a phone to record The Dance of The Burning Bollocks??
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That's what I call being prepared.........two fire extinguishers!! :clap:
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Now my heart rate has slowed and the smouldering arse hairs have been taken care of, I started pulling the bike apart. All of the damage is on the offside, so far all I see is melted plastic, no damaged wiring. Suspiciously, there was a piece of heat proof matting on that side of the exhaust.
Is it possible she is running ridiculously hot on one side (I am sure I read something somewhere)?
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Coil failure to one cylinder causes that if memory serves. The unburnt fuel from the duff cylinder burns in the exhaust pipe after being ignited by the collector. Silencer gets screaming hot and melts the plastics.
Edit: a blocked catalyst can also allow the exhaust to get hot too. Found an old post from Greywolf.
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Ho lee crap. That is awful.
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:shock: the silencer must have been glowing red to melt all that plastic.
Surely if the silencer was blocked you'd notice a running issue of some kind.
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It was a little gutless the first time I took her out but on today's ride that was much improved, although she did splutter once.
I have only travelled short distances and at lower speeds, it is possible that she was firing on one :shrug:
Edit: it wasn't just melted, there were full fat flames.
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:shock: :shock: I must go out and buy some fire extinguishers, oh wait...
Glad you're OK :thumb:
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I'm pretty sure you would notice if it was running on one cylinder, there'd be less than 50% power, it'll sound awful and struggle to idle
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Nothing that severe, I may swap out a coil and maybe a silencer from CJ and see what happens
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At this rate, CJ may well be the donor for the undertray as well.
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Good plan .. it's nice having a donor bike to solve issues. :thumb:
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Wow Andy you were lucky there mate that could have been so much worse 😱
Good job you had fire extinguishers handy :clap:
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If the λ sensor is playing up does it allow more fuel through the cylinder without rough running?
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I know, the bike on fire plus three others, the man cave and then the static Caravan next to it with four big Calor Gas cylinders outside :bawl:
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Don't you be cluttering up A&E with trivial stuff like 3rd degree burns to the conkers.
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I thought roasted rat was a delicacy of China ...
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That'd be loasted lat, then.
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Or, a number 23.
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I'd have been in severe need of a number 2 after that incident.
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The other thing I'd check is the short fuel hose between the throttle bodies, they're known to leak, try rotating it to see if it's loose on the stubs.
I had a pool of petrol on the top of the crankcase between the cylinders.
I replaced the crimps on the hose with proper fuel pipe clamps (not jubilee clips) and all's been fine since.
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Unlucky FR but good save given everything else around it at the time.
Good luck sorting it :thumb:
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I have stripped the bike today. If there is such a thing as being lucky when your bike bursts into flames, this is it. Other than the obvious plastic damage, undertray, hugger, one side panel and the tail piece, there is no other damage. The subframe is unmarked and the loom is also untouched. I have all of the parts except one side panel (which I have just seen on eBay for £20).
There is a hotspot on the exhaust, so maybe a blockage. I am going to replace the ignition coil for that side and also replace the silencer (thanks CJ) and see how we go.
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I don't know how you find the time to do all this :smirk:
I still suspect it's the revenge of the spider woman.
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Well, It's not as if I'm going anywhere else :smirk:
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Of course the bike will now have to be called Phoenix :smirk:
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:thumb:
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Phoenix - That's nice and it goes with this weeks box set "Ashes to Ashes".
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Or Fawkes. Not forks. And no g.u.y. (Dumbledore's phoenix)
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Stickers. You need stickers.
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Pffft people who sell stickers......... :shy:
Anyway, it looks like a V-Strom Sticker bowl of Welsh Blancmange to Tall Paul for calling a bad coil :thumb:
For anyone interested, the resistance across the primary windings should be between 2 and 5 ohms and across the secondary should be between 24k and 37k ohms.
As you can see, the primary is in spec. the secondary isn't. I measured the other coil on the bike and it is in spec.
Rather than pull a twenty year old coil from CJ, I have ordered a new one. While the tank was off, I dropped a new air filter in too.
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:lala: tallpaul would prefer a sausage baguette as way of reward. With crisps, he's not a savage.
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Nice one Andy .. :thumb:
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All going back together nicely :fix:
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Looking good FR.
Once you're done, you can have a "flash" sale :grin:
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It'll be too hot to handle once it's finished .. :whistle:
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I bet you can't wait to fire it up again?
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Fire is off of the menu
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Do I detect a little smouldering :eusa-doh:
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Seriously, though, how many of us have fire extinguishers in our garages / bike sheds? Not me, foolishly.
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Fire is off of the menu
off of? is that in the Fat Rat vocabulary?
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Thank you for the Welsh blancmange (I think? It sounds pervy!). Glad you've verified the cause of the problem. Let me know if you need a new silencer, as I have a pair of them from my brother's bike that he doesn't want.
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Off of. That is proper England that is.
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Thanks for the offer Paul :thumb: CJ has donated one.
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For anyone suddenly realising that a Fire Extinguisher would be a good addition to their Man Cave, this is a great deal. https://simplyextinguishers.co.uk/powerx-6-litre-foam-extinguisher.html £72 down to £20 with free delivery :thumb:
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While I am waiting for parts to arrive, and because I can't go anywhere, I am titivating.
The Rad was hanging out of the way so I could get to the front cylinder so I thought I might as well give those dreaded connectors a clean.
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Great idea coming along :thumb:
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New ignition coil fitted and new plugs, a good spark at each :thumb: All I am waiting for is an exhaust gasket and she will be ready to fire up (no pun intended) :fix:
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Looking good :thumb:.
The time we all have spare theses days I fear we will all run out of stuff to do ..
Take your time ... lol
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My exhaust gasket turned up today so another hour or so over the Mancave :fix: I have to admit that she is now clearly firing on both cylinders and sounds so much better for it. I am quite new to the V-Strom and put the lumpiness down to old fuel and shite in the filter, which was going to be my next job before the bike let me know what was really going on.
Other than a slight crispy corner underneath on the seat covering (not visible when on the bike) nobody would ever know about the....erm...incident.
Well, except for the 6000 people on here and the hundreds of visitors every day :shy:
So, to recap. This 57 plate DL1000 with 53k on the clock (sorry) :smirk: had been standing outside for an extended period. This will turn into a sales ad once I have put a hundred miles on her and we are allowed out.
She has had;
New Battery
New Clutch
Pads Front and Rear
Front Calipers rebuilt
New Brake Rotors on the front (OEM)
Brakes and Clutch bled
Clutch Slave Cylinder rubbers
DID Chain & Sprockets Air Filter
Plugs
New Coil
Air Filter
Oil & Filter
New Coolant (electrical connectors behind the Radiator cleaned and ACF-50)
donated Silencer
Replacement rear mudguard and tail
12 months MOT
2 x Fire Extinguishers :shy:
http://youtu.be/yF0yValPqXA
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A medium rare DL1000 anyone :shrug:
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Tempted, but not sure I will get away with 3 bikes if I buy the Africa Twin I am waiting to see...it's like bleedin' buses :dl_hyperhysteria:
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Looking good Andy you have made a great job of her :thumb:
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Meant to say she sounds really nice :thumb:
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Very, very nice job there Andy ... It would be nice to have a proper V-strom in the garage ...
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Go for it Josh :thumb:
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Indeed go for it Josh, your garage could do with some heating. I still haven't warmed up since my last visit...
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Is it guaranteed spider and virus free.
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I am pretty sure the arse end of it is :shy: