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Offline bonne

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DL1050 rear axle nut size, torque avoiding to get stuck
« on: April 23, 2021, 19:30:41 »
Hello. Which size is the nut on the rear axle on the 1050? My tool set goes up to 32 mm and this is not enough for this nut.

Another thing is about the torque. According to the service manual that a nice bloke uploaded to this site, the torque should be 100 nm. I read on another site that the specs on this is to much and the threads might get damaged if you torque it that much.

Is it a good thing to grease it up before tightening it in order to be nice to the bloke who is going to loosen it the next time?

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Re: DL1050 rear axle nut size, torque avoiding to get stuck
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2021, 19:59:04 »
The wisdom of one of our sadly departed experts was to use anti-seize compound and only 80% of the stated torque to allow for the difference in friction etc. Using grease and the full 100Nm will over torque it and possibly damage it.
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Re: DL1050 rear axle nut size, torque avoiding to get stuck
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2021, 07:28:23 »
I agree with using anti-seize on the axle threads with a reduced torque to 80% of the book value. Just note that some of the manuals of past models, have had incorrect torque values for the rear axle. Not saying that this is the case with the 1050 manual, but better safe than sorry.
I recall reading that the 1050 rear axle nut size is 36 mm, but open to correction. It is advised to use a six sided spanner / socket and not the automotive 12 point type spanners.  Better yet, make use of the tool kit spanner, since it is all that you have with you when out on the road. Plus with the overall length of the tool kit spanner handle, there is less chance that you may over torque it by hand.

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Re: DL1050 rear axle nut size, torque avoiding to get stuck
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2021, 08:11:16 »
36mm not sure of the torque(tight). Can't speak for the new 1050 but on my 14 Veek there was no rear wheel nut spanner in the toolkit from new.

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Re: DL1050 rear axle nut size, torque avoiding to get stuck
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2021, 08:31:07 »
That I wasn't are of. Strange that they would drop the axle nut spanner. I wonder from which model this was done, as my 1st gen has an axle spanner? For example, see the pix in post #6 of https://www.v-strom.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=33991.msg338033#msg338033

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Re: DL1050 rear axle nut size, torque avoiding to get stuck
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2021, 09:20:14 »
Actually I have never opened the toolkit on the 1050. But on my 2017 DL650, the spanner in the picture was included. I remember it as exactly the same. Just wondering how to use such a short tool to release something sitting so hard.

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Re: DL1050 rear axle nut size, torque avoiding to get stuck
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2021, 09:21:39 »
What would be a good anti-sieze compound? Something aluminium based?

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Re: DL1050 rear axle nut size, torque avoiding to get stuck
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2021, 14:06:20 »
Ordinary lithium brake grease would be plenty good enough, if not even ordinary grease or coppaslip would be fine,there are no temperature problems on the axle.
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Re: DL1050 rear axle nut size, torque avoiding to get stuck
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2021, 20:11:59 »
Looking at the toolkit in the link posted above, on the left of the wheel spanner, is an extension handle that one can slip on to the end of the wheel spanner, to effectively give more leverage.
It is good practice to try out the spanners from the supplied toolkit, so that you know what additional tools may needed to add to compliment the stock toolkit. A typical example of additional tools to carry when on tour, while may be a bit of an overkill, is show in post #6 of https://www.vstrom.info/Smf/index.php/topic,2493.0.html
To me, an additional tool to include under the seat or in the top box, besides a cell phone and a garage card, would be in the form of a 20 or 30 Amp set of jumper leads for when your battery gets on in years. The jumper cables adds value when needed to jump start either your or a friend's ride. Beats trying to push start. The gauge wire of the jumper cables is lighter than that of a normal automobile, so it rolls up smaller.

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Re: DL1050 rear axle nut size, torque avoiding to get stuck
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2021, 17:45:51 »
I can assure you that there was no wheel spanner or extension peice in my 2014 vstrom, the first year of the woody wood packer lookalikes.
There is room though under the seat for a 36mm socket and small 1/2" extension, small air pump, very small chain lube can(now empty) and an EDZ windproof thing (looks like a black bin liner).

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Re: DL1050 rear axle nut size, torque avoiding to get stuck
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2021, 07:11:50 »
It is sad that Suzuki did not include the rear wheel axle spanner as part of the stock toolkit. Chain tension is an important maintenance step on any chain driven motorcycle. I think that having to supply your own wheel spanner is a real bummer.
Maybe someone could post a pix of their 2nd gen and 3rd gen V-Strom stock toolkit, so that future owners of any of these models, can use as a reference?

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Re: DL1050 rear axle nut size, torque avoiding to get stuck
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2021, 17:23:17 »
Done now. It was harder than I thought. Slack is now 30mm. Brake grease on the tread so only torqued to 80nm (instead of 100nm as indicated in the manual). I just feel that it is not tightened very much.

Lock nut can't be tightened with my torque wrench, so it is just "like that". It is supposed to be a 12mm but, but my 12 mm wrench seems a little larger than 12 mm, so I capped the edge on the right lock nut

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Re: DL1050 rear axle nut size, torque avoiding to get stuck
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2021, 18:39:47 »
Gert, I see the tool kit issue differently. It is certainly not sufficient to carry out maintenance on the bike, just emergency 'en route' help. I only expect to use mine if I need to get the wheel off to repair a puncture or get the wheel to somewhere to do so (and I have done that).

I agree though that a rear wheel spanner is a necessity BUT I can't remove the front wheel on my 650 as there is no allen key to do that in the kit. Sort of a double whammy....... I also don't think it's really up to the challenge either, weak tools, difficuly to hold, handle and extend. Mine are still in prime condition after 6 years!
Can't wait to get my hands on a pair of budgie smugglers from OZ.........

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Re: DL1050 rear axle nut size, torque avoiding to get stuck
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2021, 19:33:09 »
The tool kit rear axle spanner is handy, if you need to adjust the chain slack, while out and about. I agree with you on the omitted front axle allen key. Porter's post that there was no rear wheel axle spanner in his ride's stock tool kit, may have been an exception for that model. Not an easy task for the average rider to reach the specified rear axle nut torque, with the stock tool spanner and extension pipe. A pix of my K5 & K6 Wee stock tool kit shows a wheel spanner for the rear axle and the axle nut, plus the extension handle for extra leverage: