Suzuki V-Strom (VStrom) Owners Club DL250, DL650, DL1000 & DL1050
V-Strom specific discussion => V-Strom specific discussion => Topic started by: vstromspoon on October 04, 2016, 10:02:03
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Have you seen it's coming. A more off road focused vstrom 1000xt next year. Gold wire wheels more comfort and a bright yellow paint job. Looks great
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It's still missing a headlight.
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And now yellow beak.
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Hmmm...it's just missing a horizontally opposed 2 piston engine...
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(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5574/14904132326_9ed10edfbf.jpg)
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Looks like the NEW 650 is coming with one headlight too :groan:
https://www.Suzuki-gb.co.uk/motorcycles/motorcycles/adventure-sports-touring/vstrom/v-strom-650/?_cldee=ZGF2ZS5oZW5kZXJzb25AYXV0b2RhdGEtZ3JvdXAuY29t&recipientid=contact-0f4967816f25e511940ec81f66dad7b4-a6012dfc36884ad7ae2e342684c27370&urlid=21
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If there isn't a beak free option then my days of owning new V-Stroms are over forever.
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I reckon beaks are here to stay :bawl:
If that's the case then my current (beakless) 65 plate is also here to stay.
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can't beat the beak
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A "YELLOW SEAT" :icon_exclaim:
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Does it have one of these?
(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab192/justsomepix/images_3.jpg)
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This version is £500 dearer..........
(http://i863.photobucket.com/albums/ab192/justsomepix/beaker.jpg)
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Like the new rims thought they would do that and about time. Seat looks like a throw back retro look from 80s, white towelling socks trainers and a paddock jacket era. I think the engine needs a proper update the journos always point out it's current lack of horses (not that I think you need 150bhp for an adventure bike). Looks Africa Twin-esque but a bit cheap looking in yellow. Be good when it comes out as it should make the Veek even cheaper 2nd hand for the Summer. White and black looks nicer colour scheme, looks like a Yam Super Tenere at front profile.
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Meh, I do quite like the beak though...
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I think the 650 looks fantastic! A really good restyle and improvements on the Glee in several areas which I really like, such as ditching the plastic fuel tank covers, an integrated and complete looking front end (the Glee XT with beak just looks like an afterthought), the new wheels looks great as does the exhaust.
I can see myself buying the 3rd generation VStrom making this the only model of bike I've ever owned 3 separate times. Top job Suzuki!
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Fat Rat
Do not understand why you closed the thread for the new 650 and link to this
This is for the 1000 bike not the 650 and there are only 2 replies on this as opposed to a lot more on the other thread
People that want to read about the 650 are not going to know that this thread has posts on the 650 as it is titled "2017 1000xt"
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I don't like it :dance:
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Perhaps this is more to sir's liking?
...Jeeves
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...or this
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n83BV7IpYqghttp://
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Fat Rat
Do not understand why you closed the thread for the new 650 and link to this
This is for the 1000 bike not the 650
I don't understand why Holly Woollobooby won't return my calls.
The 650 was referenced early in the thread, anyway, It's all the same ugly pointy one eyed abortion, so no difference.
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I agree with flanners it does look like an 80s colour scheme a bloke I knew back then had a Yamaha DT 125 that looked very similar, I quite like the wheels though, need to seen one up close.
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Traction control and anti-stalling? On the new 650? Have we been having problems in these areas?
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Here is a link to more info.
http://www.globalsuzuki.com/motorcycle/products/v-strom650a_xt/
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Traction control and anti-stalling? On the new 650? Have we been having problems in these areas?
Exactly what I was thinking!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21BB79NS4MM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21BB79NS4MM)
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I love it and I am going to buy one and put "Fat Rat" on the beak :happydance: lol :clap: :happydance:
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What are we going to call this version then?
No rude commence pleas
Answers on a postcard please to Blue Peter at...
Perhaps as based on SV engine Svee?
... or /// Beeky ///>
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Traction control and anti stall assist have no place in the make up of a 650cc twin adventure sport bike...
But I'm still drooling on the great job Suzuki have made of the styling job. If they keep the price keen it'll sell like hot cake. Much better looking than Tracer 700, Versys, Tiger, F700GS etc etc.
I love it!
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What are we going to call this version then?
How about GSEE...
Not for me: it's out of the running for a garage spot now.
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Sveek...
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good vids, from the promo looks like the Strom/Suzuki is going for more off road potential maybe to rival the GS, KTM etc....harking back to their off road glory TS and DR (Big) golden days. The yellow is even growing on me more :shock:
anti stall...do they mean an ECU that works al la Veek or fuel maps that have not been played with to meet emission rules a la Vee?
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Traction control and anti stall assist have no place in the make up of a 650cc twin adventure sport bike...
+1
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I like the low rev fuelling idea for town work, and the lower exhaust. The styling was never it's best feature, a beak pushes it further along the oddity route. If I was looking to replace my glee, I might be heading over to a reasonably priced yam or a kwak even..... :stirpot:
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The new 650 AL7
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"Low rev fuelling for town work"...
Never had an issue. First ever injected bike, always seems to do exactly what I ask regardless of road speed, revs or what gear I'm in.
All those having problems, speak up, either I've been lucky or you haven't.
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This ugly collection of assorted "parts bin" rejects will only continue Suzuki's dismal record of having not made a proper V-Strom since 2011.
:eusa-doh:
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Somebody has been hibernating for 5 years :dl_ninite: :dl_ninite: :dl_ninite: :dl_ninite: :dl_ninite: :icon_wink:
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Loaded
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:shock: :shock: :-x :-x :-x
My next bike won't be a Suzuki then.
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Looks tolerable from the side (apart from the hankie-sized panniers) but that big light and screen are just ugly.
Don't care for the Lego Yellow either.
Wouldn't buy either of them in a million years, I'm afraid. Not without poking my eyes out first.
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Well...I like them! haha :thumb:
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I was at the Intermot and made this impression of the new 2017 V-Strom 650 and the 1000XT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4ok4H0x_Ig&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4ok4H0x_Ig&feature=youtu.be)
Peter
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Not only do they look shit and the screen and luggage are nonsense, I imagine Suzuki will follow their model of stitching up loyal early adopters by pitching the launch price high and then three months later knock 30% off and include free sandwich and flask Panniers.
Who predicts a recall for the new electronics?
It's a sad day.
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As a Veek owner I sort of like the look, they grow on you ( but not in yellow, I'm 53 not 3) and as I want a smaller lighter bike next time rhis could be it. But I have to question suzukis logic of making another bike look the same as one of their worst selling models worldwide.
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Had low level rpm assist on all my bikes since the 60s .. it's called a "clutch lever." :old:
Those panniers are useless, handles fastened with pop rivets, one came apart on my Veek a month old. The replacement lock never worked properly. Flimsy plastic, small capacity and a pain fitting on and off. :groan:
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Suzuki has not changed the weak points of the old model ..the 650 front brakes have always been OK ...but..just OK, they should have been up dated and as I said on my other text ..why havent they put the same charging system as the new 1,000cc strom on the 650 as there has been no know charging problems on any of the 2014 models..as for the looks ..well I'm afraid I never found the new 1,000cc strom to be a "looker" and now they have made the 650 the same.. "no" ..I agree with others its just a parts bin exercise... I think its that "one headlamp above the other" design I find not very nice ..Suzuki should have had a look at Honda's africa twin , now there's a nice looking thing .
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My jury's out on the looks at the moment and as my Glee is 2015 won't need a replacement yet. BUT when I am looking for my next bike if the new bike rides as well as my current one I'll have one as I've never had a bike before that ticks so many boxes!
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They are still wheeling those barn door mirrors out.
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Its definitely not the best looking adventure bike out there, but shes not bad looking. definitely the best looking vstrom to date. Also the 650 was in need of a make over, so its good they have done that. I don't think I will be getting one as I don't think there's enough new stuff to make it worth while over my 2014 model.
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Hmmm... not sure - initially I quite liked it (the 650) in yellow, but I'm going off it already. I'm a beak-hater though it's less offensive on the new bike. Think I'll keep my Glee a while longer as I still think it's the best looking model (imo). As I seem to be shrinking in my declining years and the Glee is already borderline a bit tall for my little legs, next time I think it could be a new SV650 (had a go on one recently - it was a hoot) or, much as I hate the styling, a Tiger 800 Low for its Triple and cruise control...
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Not only do they look shit and the screen and luggage are nonsense, I imagine Suzuki will follow their model of stitching up loyal early adopters by pitching the launch price high and then three months later knock 30% off and include free sandwich and flask Panniers.
Who predicts a recall for the new electronics?
It's a sad day.
They are still wheeling those barn door mirrors out.
Oh you miserable old so & so
It looks OK IMHO, although I'd have preferred more realistic updates, you know stuff like half decent suspension & waterproof connectors.....
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What are we going to call this version then?
No rude commence pleas
Answers on a postcard please to Blue Peter at...
Perhaps as based on SV engine Svee?
... or /// Beeky ///>
Maybe GEEK?
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Hondaman, no, not miserable, a little pissed off that I won't own another new V-Strom and my cynical view of the marketing model is based on watching the 2014 DL1000 launch.
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They trumpet ABS and Traction Control and so they should when they feature a bike with road tyres charging around on some (albeit hard and dry) off road stuff.
However, I really hate these promo videos that are all about image and give naff all information.
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What seems strange is that the original Versys 650 had hideous vertical headlights that spoilt the look of the bike
So they made them horizontal and it looks mush better
Suzuki have gone in the other direction...duh!
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Easier to fit vertically stacked lamps into a beak than side by side ones. I quite like the look, the beak is part of the bike, not an afterthought like the gleek. It just seems a bit too funduro shaped.
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The new 650xt is definitely growing on me
I think the 2012 is pretty, the 2017 is handsome and looks more functional, more like a dirt bike or a workhorse
Having said that I think the rear rack although more adaptable looks hideous
And the dash is going to take a bit of getting used to after the L one
If you look at all the photos the 650 is not quite the same as the 1000
The 650 styling proportions are much better, whereas, although similar, the 1000 proportions are slightly well... just not quite right
The 1000 styling looks slightly awkward to me
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I like the 650. The beak looks more at home sat (perched?) on the front of it than it does on a gleek. I prefer the cast wheels as opposed to spokes too. Ever since "Josh and the empty tool tube" incident a year or two ago I have developed a distrust of them. On the electronic gizmo front, I would leave the traction control in the "off" position, same as on my current bike. I can't figure out why they thought the bike needed it in the first place. I'm still waiting for the 750 shaft drive version...
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One thing which is good is the 650 now shows the time and the temperature at the same time (not toggled)
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Lower exhaust a good idea, wonder if it will be deathly quiet like the L (and get changed to a GPR)
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I'm still waiting for the 750 shaft drive version...
Where do I sign?
I've trawled the net every few years looking for a decent mid-sized shaftie. Love shaft drive bikes, had an xv750, xj650, vn1500, gsx1100g. Can't think why they stopped making usable, affordable..... um, ah, yeah, that's the one.
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750 Shaftie +1 :icon_drool5:
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I like it, mostly. Should have uprated the fundamentals though, suspension especially, over stuff like traction control. The beak does look like it's been part of the design (not an afterthought). Still not sure what it contributes though.
Beauty is in the eye of...etc, I suppose. It's not perfect, but 'parts bin abortion' is a bit extreme, imo :grin:
there's stuff in todays MCN about the changes btw
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650 FR anybody?
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Where do I sign?
I've trawled the net every few years looking for a decent mid-sized shaftie. Love shaft drive bikes, had an xv750, xj650, vn1500, gsx1100g. Can't think why they stopped making usable, affordable..... um, ah, yeah, that's the one.
Agreed, completely - or even belt drive, I just hate chains! Agree also about the traction control - why? On an MT10 etc. sure but on a 650 twin? I've certainly never felt the need for it; ABS sure. I'm a big advocate of cruise control too per my last post for mile munching; would have loved to have seen that rather than TC. Though I'm still wavering on the looks I think the 650 is better looking than a Tiger but on paper at least that's where I think I'm heading next...
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Expected it to be shod with Battlax A40's as opposed to BW's! I too hate chains - those lovely gold rims will be a nightmare to keep looking good - I'll stick to the black rims! Traction control is good and if never used then sign of a very good rider - can be a lifesaver if unaware of oil below rear tyre on a curve or roundabout. Yes - where is cruise control Suzuki, and where are decent adventure panniers and a 21" front. Hopefully the Bosch cornering ABS will become an aftermarket option like KTM. At present, not enough to make me change from the 2014 1000 ABS!
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The white xt's look better, no gold but black rims on either bike. I hope the addition for traction control don't push the price of the 650 up too much. When triumph updated the tiger 800 road and added tc and ride by wire but little else the price jumped £900! I'll not change, well not to another 1000 anyway. And I guess I'm in a class of one here but I'd rather have the battlewings than the a40's!
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Didn't really know where to post this, sorry if it's in the wrong place.
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/news/2016/october/2017-Suzuki-DL650-v-strom
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Nahhh..... I like mine cos it looks like what it is, a big fat dirty motorbike.....and I can fix most things on it myself....and I have no idea what low RPM assist is or why I have never seemed to need it in all these years...and the easy start?, what's that about?, my thumb seems strong enough for the job....and ....ahh I can't be bothered to carry on with this...
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lol lol
It does seem to be getting silly with all these extra bits and bobs. Hill start for one which is on some bikes now, what's wrong with the front or rear brake.
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You are joking about the hill start aren't you?.........seriously? Oh my God you are telling the truth!! I just looked it up! What the....who....why....but.....I can't...I'm going to have to a lay down.
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I was thinking we don't need this low rpm assist but then I remembered that I did stall the bike the other day....hmm
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And, no, I am not a novice, before anyone says it
Would prefer cruise control to traction control, as others have mentioned
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I wonder how long it will be before our glorious leader closes this thread and refers us to another thread that is about the DL1000 :grin:
Perhaps he is :dl_ninite:
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I have been waiting in the wings to see what the new 2017 model is like and I have come to the conclusion that its not bad looking as far as "beaks" go but don't think they have changed the things I would have liked , better brakes , bigger tank ect ..so I have decided to go for a new 2016 model. I went to my local dealer and got a good part ex for my old model and with the £777 off Suzuki and 3yr warranty [ if its serviced at a Suzuki dealer and you are the first owner on the log book ..so no pre regs ? ] and I think they are a hell of a good buy, well they must be cos Suzuki gb have none left & my local dealer had a struggle to get me one that another dealer had at their shop ..so if you're thinking of grabbing one you better be quick ....
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do boy not sure whether you are talking 650 or 1000 but if 650 Orwells at Ipswich had a couple of AL6's in the showroom when I was there for a service a couple of weeks ago.
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yea sorry it was the 650 I was on about . my dealer managed to get hold of one from another dealer , going to pick it up on monday , thanks .
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doboy, 3 yr warranty has nothing to do with servicing at a dealership or being the first registered owner. Suzuki's website even says so... basically Suzuki are offering 3yr warranty on all bikes registered in 2016 (instead of the standard 2yrs) and warranty is on the product not the owner.
https://www.Suzuki-gb.co.uk/motorcycles/motorcycles/adventure-sports-touring/vstrom/v-strom-650xtl6/
And you don't need to use a Suzuki dealer for servicing:
https://www.Suzuki-gb.co.uk/ccr/customer-services-frequently-asked-questions/#FAQ_WARRANTY
It winds me up when dealers mislead customers either deliberately or through incompetence :violence-smack:
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uk_v strom650, go into the small print on Suzuki website regarding the 3rd yrs warranty [ next to the 3rys warranty sign in a blue box ] it definetly says the third year warranty is only available if serviced by an official uk Suzuki dealer ..I think that using none Suzuki dealers may apply to the std 2yrs warranty, but I'm only guessing ..and the £777 off says , this only applies to bikes that are "private registered" I'm guessing that means no pre registered from the dealers. but I do hope your right as going to my local dealer instead of official Suzuki one would save me a heap of money ..cheers
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Funny how Kawasaki have restyled away from their Fugly stacked headlights to twin lights and Suzuki is going towards staked lights on more and more models.
I'm sure it'll grow on me in time but at the minute I like some features and don't like others, never been a beaker. :icon_no:
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The beak on the 2017 model is slightly less ridiculous than the current XT. The cyclops headlight just kills the look for me.
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I agree, I don't mind a beak, but I really dislike the stacked lights
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I don't like the Headlights or the Beak.
The argument for the single headlight is supposed to be a weight saving. So why stick a beak on the front? I know the beak weights less than an headlight, but weight is weight and that's a lump of plastic that isn't needed.
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+1 its the stacked headlamp I don't like . My mate has the 650 versys with them .....ugly...I would never date a woman with one eye above the other ..
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^ you could say the same about a loud exhaust
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Stacked Headlight so you don't end up with this nonsense of one day light on the left and a never used full beam on the right. That annoys me so much looks unfinished
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Not applicable to the Strom as both headlights are on all the time.
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Would be intresting to know if the exhaust could be used on a Glee?
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The 2017 650 exhaust is much the same in looks but would require a lot of work if it was possible. No way could a 1000 exhaust be put on a 650.
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GREYWOLF, do you know if they have improved the charging system on the 2017 model ?
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The 1000 got a very good charging system in 2014, 490W, a series regulator/rectifier and encapsulated rotor magnets. I have yet to see a single complaint about the Veek charging system. The 2017 650 is getting the same R/R. I'm not sure about the magnets but not many have come loose on 650s.
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I have to say ... I absolutely love the look of the 2017 650 ...... The daft headlight is a little bit of a worry but the overall bike looks great ..
Also with SV cams, there should be a wee bit more poke ....
Anyone want to buy a Yam Super Ten??
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Thanks for that info greywolf, it might be worth putting the 2017 650 R/R on the older models ..
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Style - Women have lots and lots of shoes they love but don't wear
Style - What grown ups were wearing in 1970 ( take a look)
Style - When looks are valued more than performance.
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I have to say ... I absolutely love the look of the 2017 650 ......
Josh,
Don't worry, nobody here is suggesting you are gay :grin:
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What's the thinking behind spokes. Always a PITA back in the day.
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Mr Fat Rat,
Do you treat all champions in this manner? :shock:
hahaha seriously though, I like it a lot and even Justine likes it :happydance:
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Well that's it then.
If a girl likes it we all have to defer to their judgement. Just like on every other subject.
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So you're saying it's a girls bike Josh?
Controversial :eusa-doh:
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:angry-banghead:
I've gone off the ******* thing now
lol :thumb:
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That's my complimentary bike from Suzuki off the cards :)
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Beakcause you didn't deserve one in the first place... :grin: