Suzuki V-Strom (VStrom) Owners Club DL250, DL650, DL1000 & DL1050
V-Strom specific discussion => V-Strom specific discussion => Topic started by: kirky1298 on March 12, 2014, 11:21:51
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OK , I'm in the process of making 10 sets of Cree bullet style super bright led daytime running lights.
The image below is my first production pair which are going to Putbinoot of this parish for testing.
What I'm looking for is 10 Beta testers who would be willing to test these lights for me for a period of 3 months and provide feedback to me on the lights.
Ideally I'm looking for testers who do lots of miles in all weathers.
At the end of the test period you have the option of either returning the lights to me or paying for the cost of materials used to make the lights and post them out. This would be £15 by paypal gift at the end of the 3 month trial period.
These lights can be patched into a switched live or even to the sidelight or tail light and basic electrical knowledge would be beneficial.
These lights draw 7w power per light, 14w total power and are 7000k colour super bright output
(http://imageshack.com/a/img41/2056/u491.jpg)
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I would be very interested. My wife and I use the bikes for commuting most days regardless of weather.
How do they mount?
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I would be very interested. My wife and I use the bikes for commuting most days regardless of weather.
How do they mount?
Mounting the lights would be up to you, if you have engine bars you can zip tie them or use electrical tape, hot glue, adhesive Velcro or a wee dab of silicone seal, all of which would be easily removable. The lights, although very robust and 100% waterproof are very light in weight and wouldn't be too hard to mount.
Lights will be ready for posting by the end of the month .
Regards , Jok .
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pm sent
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I'm in, sending PM.
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As usual, I've posted this thread without thinking, so I've just sent the site owner a p.m. Asking for permission to do this as I don't want to break any forum rules.
So , if the thread disappears temporarily until I speak to Andy , don't worry .
Regards , Jok .
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pm sent
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PM Sent.
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7 beta testers signed up . 3 sets of lights to go. :thumb:
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PM sent
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Do they flood or spot or are they just for visibility?
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Happy to give a pair a workout.
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I would be willing if you would consider a Cagiva.
Many thanks.
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Do they flood or spot or are they just for visibility?
Juv , these are primarily Hi viz daytime running lights although they do illuminate somewhat .
depending on the outcome of testing I may develop a range of Micro and Mini spotlights.
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I would be willing if you would consider a Cagiva.
Many thanks.
be quick with a P.M then , only 2 sets left.
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I will have a go too Kirky ! PM sent
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if there is a set left I'll give them a go, happy to help
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I would as well, kirky - but as usual I think I've just feckin missed out! lol :GRR:
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Many thanks for all the interest shown in testing these lights.
Sorry , but I now have my 10 testers and the lights will be posted to them hopefully before the end of the month .
If the test results and reliability come back as I'm sure they will then these lights will be available from around the 1st of July
Currently it costs me just short of £15 to make a set of these lights and post them out. It takes me around 1 hour per set to make and test and I was thinking of offering them for £20 posted which would include a 90 day no quibble replacement guarantee.
These lights will be made from top quality materials and will be 100% waterproof guaranteed .
What do you think ? Is this a reasonable price to ask for a quality hand built product ?
Many thanks once again , Jok , aka Kirky
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I think you should ask for £25 min, mate :shrug:
Ever thought of getting a bigger bit of tube and hoyin 2 or 3 leds in?
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Good price for hand made originals, just a thought could you do red ones (not as bright) as well might stop them rear ending you :clap:
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I think you should ask for £25 min, mate :shrug:
Ever thought of getting a bigger bit of tube and hoyin 2 or 3 leds in?
I'm going to check reliability before moving on with this venture , but yes , I have some ideas for micro and mini spotlights .
As for price , I'm not doing this to become rich , just to provide a cost effective hi-viz light to help keep fellow bikers safe. I know that there are many mass produced lights flooding the market now that seem to last no time due to poor construction , vibration or water ingress . These are generally around the £20 mark or cheaper but they are junk . If I make a few quid per set just to cover my time then I'm more than happy .
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Good price for hand made originals, just a thought could you do red ones (not as bright) as well might stop them rear ending you :clap:
Yes , rears could be made too , but I think using Cree LED's would be overkill.
I have something in the pipeline for wide tail lights, watch this space . :thumb:
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OK , my first set of lights on trial
Many thanks to Putbinoot of this parish for testing .
The bottom lights on this pic are the 20mm Cree DLR's mounted to the side of the engine bash plate, an ideal location for testing as they will pick up loads of water and road grime.
For comparison , the middle lights are 75mm round multi LED Spotlights
You can see how bright the DLR's are with the light they cast on the ground just in front of the bike
(http://imageshack.com/a/img31/1323/3yfp.jpg)
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Doh, I would have tried them out.
Ebay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Marine-Grade-316-Stainless-Steel-P-Clip-Hose-Pipe-Clamp-Cable-Mikalor-Lined-/190900783836?pt=UK_DIY_Material_Nails_Fixing_MJ&var=&hash=item2c7292cadc), had the idea of using 2 per light to mount to the crash bars. One around the light, one around the crash bar.
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Hi been looking to buy some lights I do 84 miles a day for work I also need some before my euro trip in may so very interested - cheers.
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Likewise if all goes well I will order a couple of sets for the Glee.. :)
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All beta test places are now filled
Gents, Ladies,
Once again I'd like to thank you for your interest in these lights, unfortunately all places for beta testers have now been filled. Due to the response yesterday I upped it to 15 test sets of lights and these are now all allocated.
Due to the overwhelming response, what I am prepared to do during the 3 month test period is offer the lights for sale. At £20 per set posted, but with a 60 day no quibble replacement guarantee. I have bench tested these lights for an extended period and have full confidence in them.
After beta testing is complete around the end of June, start of July and if the results are as I suspect then the lights will be sold at the same price of £20 posted but with an extended 90 day guarantee .
So, if you feel that you can't wait until testing is complete and are happy with a 60 day guarantee then send me a P.M to discuss your requirements .
Thanks once again for all your help and support. Jok . :thumb:
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Following on from the popularity of these lights I have had several requests for rear facing wide marker lights. Or even fog lights.
Before I start putting time into designing rear lights I thought I would ask if you think there would be a market for these ?
I designed and built a set of wide tail lights for my BMW R1150GS and I really liked these. They made the bike so much more visible from the rear.
The 2 options that I'm looking at are ....
1. Small bullets similar to the front lights , with red lens .
2 . Wide tails integrated into the rear indicators. The indicators are red until you switch them on then they flash orange as usual . Obviously these only work with clear indicators .
What do you think , would these appeal to anyone ?
Regards , Jok
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good idea
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To take in the older models I would prefer separate lights on the pannier frame etc to creat a bigger spread of lights.
If not id have to convert to clear lenses / amber bulbs I guess. I have a high level brake light in the top box.
I wanted to buy the GIVI pannier rear lights but they are silly money.
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To take in the older models I would prefer separate lights on the pannier frame etc to creat a bigger spread of lights.
If not id have to convert to clear lenses / amber bulbs I guess. I have a high level brake light in the top box.
I wanted to buy the GIVI pannier rear lights but they are silly money.
I will hopefully build a set of each and put pics up for scrutinisation . To be honest I did the indicators on my GS and it's a lot of work and time. Each individual led requires a separate resistor and from memory each indicator had 8 LED's . Cree led's would simply be too bright so close to the indicators. I'm more in favour of pannier frame mounting the wide tails .
Red cree led's come in at £12 each just for the bulbs so I think the cost would be too prohibitive . I am in contact with a company though who will laser cut red lenses to my specifications which would allow me to use super white Crees . This would mean that rear wide tails would be the same price as the front bullets. So, effectively I could supply an all round visibility package for around £35 - 40 .
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I think care has to be taken so that the brake light will still be brighter than these. You don't want to be visible and then someone doesn't notice that you're braking and ploughs into you anyway.
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I think care has to be taken so that the brake light will still be brighter than these. You don't want to be visible and then someone doesn't notice that you're braking and ploughs into you anyway.
Exactly Juv you don't want these too bright they are simply marker lights.. Could possibly use standard LED's to keep cost down too . :thumb:
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Roll up roll up !
Round two. OK , if you missed the chance to trail the Cree DRL's I'm now offering the chance to trial wide tails
These lights will be constructed in the same fashion as the DRL's Except they will be rear facing double lens 100% waterproof wide tails . They will look exactly the same as the K-Lite bullets. ( that's my new name for them ) except they will be fitted with lower output cree led's fitted with red lenses. These lights will be ideal for mounting to a bike fitted with pannier rails.
What I need is 10 Beta testers to mount these wide tails and trial them for 3 months. At the end of the trial period simply return the lights or pay £10 English pounds for the privilege of keeping them.
These lights will be bright enough even in daylight to increase the rear visibility of your bike but not too bright to overcome the power of the brake light.
I'm currently looking into the possibility of having these light wired through a control module that will make them flicker with the front DRL's very much like a modern BMW or Mercedes car. ( if you have seen them then you will know how effective they are ) but my basic principle is keep it simple stupid !! This would be something that could be easily retrofitted.
What I'm looking for is 10 Beta testers, preferably with pannier rails fitted and with a basic electrical knowledge who would be willing to test these lights for a period of 3 months
First 10 private messages giving their contact details will receive the lights for trial before 15th April .
Gentlemen ! Start your engines !!
Many thanks in advance , Jok
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Another generous offer Jok. :clap:
As someone that got in on the front light list, I won't take a space on the back light list so someone else can have a go.
Plus, I already have a high level brake light in a Givi Top Box. It would be interesting to see how your lights compare to the Givi option (which is a brake light only).
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Oh go on then :)
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I'd like to try one, always looking for more ways to make my rear end more visible :grin:
PM sent
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yes please
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It shouldn't be too difficult to wire in a circuit with resistor to have them on dim and full intensity when braking.
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PM sent
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Did you get my pm ?
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Did you get my pm ?
Yes, some of us need to work a 16 hour Saturday nightshift though :thumb:
I'll get through my messages today mate .
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16hour night shift bah! Most of it in bed! :)
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Pm sent
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16hour night shift bah! Most of it in bed! :)
Maybe in your rural shires old bean , me ? , I Work in the busiest station in Scotland. :thumb: although we were pretty quiet after midnight
Dwight :grin:
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Apologies gents , I have come in from work today to deal with some serious teenage daughter problems and naturally the lights have taken a back seat.
I will speak to my daughters guidance teacher tomorrow and hopefully I can get on to start making some lights. I'm not going to bullshit but 3 forum members have bought lights and my priority is to get the lights out to them first . I have received the materials to make 8 sets of lights and expect the rest of the materials by the end of the week. Naturally my teenage daughters welfare will come first but as soon as I get time I will get the lights made up and dispatched. If you have applied to trial the tail lights I'll be honest, I haven't even checked my messages yet so, in order to make it fair I will select the first 10 p.m s and they will be testers. These light s are important to me but please understand, without going into any details, my daughters welfare is far more important to me, therefore there may be a delay in getting the rear lights built and dispatched . I hope you understand . Regards , Jok :thumb:
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Totally understand - and sympathise, Jok (been there with the teen daughters...in fact, what am I saying? I am there right now :bawl: lol ). Good luck with all that stuff - :) :thumb:
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Red ones are a great idea. I ride in all weathers and have often thought a rear fog/bad viz light would make me feel safer.
If you're still looking for testers I'd be very happy to. I commute and tour so they will get a thorough run.
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I understand I have three of them......... :bawl:
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Quick update on the lights
I've sourced some better construction materials which will allow me to consistently produce a higher standard of lights leading to a better quality product. ( I've made a few sets up but am not happy that I can consistently produce the exact same specifications. Many folk wouldn't notice the very slight differences but I'd like to get this perfect right from the outset )
I will be starting to make the lights over the next 2 days with a view to getting some posted out on Friday. All being well , all the front lights will be out by the middle of next week.
I'm currently testing 2 different rear red led's from different suppliers before I decide which ones to use . Red rear cree led bulbs are coming it at over £9 per pair supplied therefore rear lights may need to be a couple of pounds more expensive than first thought.
I'd rather spend the time now making sure that the lights are the best I can possibly make at a cost that everyone agrees is reasonable for a quality hand built product. For these reasons there will be a slight delay in getting the rears produced and distributed to testers. Apologies for this delay
Many thanks for your patience in this matter. Regards, Jok . :thumb:
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I understand I have three of them......... :bawl:
Four last time I counted :old:
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Sneak peek of the mkII K-Lite Bullet. Be warned, this is the test prototype and final production units will be far tidier .
(http://imageshack.com/a/img854/1671/z1fo.jpg)
A quick look at the new and improved light using all new materials.
Being concerned with reliability I have opted for a floating Cree bulb design which allows better air circulation around the heat sink on the Cree bulb. This should markedly improve the lifespan of the light unit to somewhere between 50,000 & 100,000 hrs of use.
In addition I have fitted a 1mm scratch resistant polycarbonate primary lens to protect the secondary lens
thus increasing the waterproof properties of the light unit. Ideally I wanted to fit a quartz crystal primary lens but these are proving very hard to source in the quantities that I require and let's just say they weren't cheap
( 25% of total production costs )
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( picture 2 )
In addition I have fitted a 3mm custom laser cut rear plate which incorporates a cable grab system to prevent detachment of the power cable. This also helps to maintain the 100% waterproof rating of these lamps.
I have also decided to go with slightly heavier .75mm two core cable just for customer peace of mind. Please bear in mind that this is my first go with the new materials and the finished article will be far better finished. You won't see white sealer between the double lens on the front as I'll be using black sealer to make the lights more aesthetically pleasing on the eye although it has no bearing on the performance of the lights.
Lights are 50mm long by 21mm diameter and weigh approx 25 Grams each. Rear lights should be exactly the same size and weight.
Well ? What's the verdict ?
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they look absolutely brilliant, :lala: :lala: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :text-bravo: :text-woo:
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they look absolutely brilliant, :lala: :lala: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :text-bravo: :text-woo:
Cheers mate, much appreciated . :thumb:
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OK, further research on the Cree led's has shown that they naturally give off a twinkling effect. Well , blow me over !! That kind of saves all us tightwad bikers a few squids. :thumb: it means that I don't need to look into expensive control modules etc to give the desired effect . I have to say , I noticed Putbinoots's £20 chineese spotlights giving off the flickering effect the last time we were heading to Europe and just assumed it was his twisty twisty wiring technique. :grin:
Result !! You get the effect free of charge lol .
Can't say I've noticed it with these new lights but if they do then that will be a Brucey bonus free of charge as constructing a flickering control module was beyond me :grin: anyway, I'm away to throw the MKII K-Lite into a basin of water and leave it running all night to check the waterproof properties.
Wish me luck . :thumb:
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OK , here goes .
(http://imageshack.com/a/img580/8959/n8xe.jpg)
Try an get your other Hi-Viz Bullet company to do this then........
(http://imageshack.com/a/img811/6094/qt8f.jpg)
It's under !!! Lmao !!
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OK, being a conscientious firefighter I couldn't possibly go to bed and leave this light submerged in my kitchen basin with my wife and kids asleep upstairs. What about if I sleep on the couch after drinking another couple of cans of cider and take another photo at say 7 am of the light still under the water. Would that convince you that these lights are waterproof ?
I'm going to look a right tit though if I wake up at 7am and the light is full of water lol . :grin: oh well , cest la vie .
I know I could have faked it , but feck it , let's be honest , would I ?. If it fails , it fails . It's now 15 mins since full submersion and going strong. Anyone want to take bets ?? lol
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Nice job - Hopefully your house will still be standing at 7am.
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Yay, 07:00 hrs and the light is still shining perfectly underwater.
I don't know what constitutes 100% waterproof! but over 4 hours fully submerged in water will do for me.
I'm away to my bed knackered now . :thumb:
Note to self, don't conduct wacky tests whilst drinking cheap cider on a school night :crazy: lol
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10 out of 10 for dedication
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That test is more than enough for anyone that wants to know if the lights will be OK if you dropped our bike in a ford or something.
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That test is pretty darn impressive, good to know for when I decide to ride across to France without a ferry or the tunnel! :)
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You're a legend. Each of your updates makes me smile.
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Yay, 07:00 hrs and the light is still shining perfectly underwater.
I don't know what constitutes 100% waterproof! but over 4 hours fully submerged in water will do for me.
I'm away to my bed knackered now . :thumb:
Note to self, don't conduct wacky tests whilst drinking cheap cider on a school night :crazy: ::):
Well Done Sir......
Looking forward to lighting up the Highlands :)))
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Can't wait to burn the retinas of the half asleep feckers on the M6 of a morning in all weathers - thanks
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Looking good :thumb:
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I can't believe the amount of testing you're doing, very impressive. some pro companies don't seem to do that much :thumb:
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Quick update,
I've made a few sets of lights but I'm not entirely happy with them. I used 0.5mm cable and only fitted each light with a half metre tail. Subsequently I have decided to change to 0.75mm cable and fit 1 metre tails. The cost to me is fractionally more production wise but the longer tails should make the lights easier to wire up.
I ordered a 100 metre drum of cable which I thought would be here today ( Saturday ) but it hasn't arrived.
I'm not working on Monday or Tuesday and should get most sets of lights made up and posted.
I'm still pissing about at the research stage with the red wide tails and subsequently they will be delayed for a few weeks.
Lights will be going out this coming week Guaranteed.
If you get a set with shorter tails you can pride yourself on the fact that you have one of the first sets ever made and be part of an elitist group which will allow you to look down on others . :grin:
Thanks for your patience and understanding. Jok.
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I'm a buyer for an electrical distributor. If you need to make any cost savings I might be able to help. pm me
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I'm a buyer for an electrical distributor. If you need to make any cost savings I might be able to help. pm me
Good to know Mitch, I'll keep you in mind mate :thumb:
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what sort of aux fuse box will I need for this? :shrug:
I'm a lot of a noob when it comes to leccy so will be getting a m8 to connect it all up for me :shy:
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what sort of aux fuse box will I need for this? :shrug:
I'm a lot of a noob when it comes to leccy so will be getting a mate to connect it all up for me :shy:
Don't need a fuse box just patch them into front or back light circuit . Or a switched fused live
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OK, front lights are definitely going out this week. (First batch tomorrow morning)
Rears are still in development but the cheapest that I can get red cree bulbs are £9 per pair & I'm not prepared to shell out that cash for bulbs without first looking at alternative options.
What I'm currently trying to do is get 1mm thick laser cut red lenses made up and use the same cree bulbs that I use in the front lamps. The red lens should drop the lumen output to a better level for rear marker lights but keep them bright enough to be highly visible in daylight . Well, that's what I'm hoping for but it's a case of suck it and see.
I'll try and keep everyone up to date via this thread but please remember, this is a completely new venture and Rome wasn't built in a day. Cheers for now, Jok. :thumb:
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Nice one Jok, looking forward to dazzling the local Pussy :) :shy:
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Looking forward to getting them fitted! :)
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Sharpy and MartinW you are testers 7 & 9 respectively and as such should have lights this week . :thumb:
And remember, we need photies. :thumb:
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7 sets of lights posted out today. :thumb:
They seem to take longer to make than I first anticipated. ### :crazy:
Hopefully I'll get another 10 sets out tomorrow before I go back to work on Wednesday.
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Quality control seems to be improving . :thumb:
(http://imageshack.com/a/img69/8940/l4qa.jpg)
All front lights will hopefully be out tomorrow. Thanks for your patience . :thumb: . Jok
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Can you post a PIC of it mounted on the bike switched off so we can see the mounting and position ( ooh errr matron) - tks
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Top work, Jok! :thumb: :grin: Be interesting to see what different ways folk mount them...
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I've used the black electrical tape method lol :))) :thumb:
Just taped them to the inside of my engine bars.
I think Putbinoot used zip ties onto the side of his engine bash plate .
C'mon blokes, surly you can figure this out. ###
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I CAn lash stuff on OK what imcrap at is making stuff lookneat and tidy hence the request............. :angry-tappingfoot:
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I CAn lash stuff on OK what imcrap at is making stuff lookneat and tidy hence the request............. :angry-tappingfoot:
I'm sure you'll do just fine :thumb:
If you have engine bars use a couple of black zip ties or a wee dollop of black silicone sealer and tape to hold it until sealer sets .
Oh look , 30 seconds with google . :grin: :thumb:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Marine-Grade- ... 0900783836 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Marine-Grade-316-Stainless-Steel-P-Clip-Hose-Pipe-Clamp-Cable-Mikalor-Lined-/190900783836)
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OK 21mm pipe clamp - cheers
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Exactly what I was planning on using :D
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Left field question anyone know the diameter of the GIVI engine bars on the DL1000, forgot to measure them this morning and I wanted to order clips today - hoping someone has had this issue and knows the numbers.
I'm planning on using 2 of these per light, one onto the engine bars and one onto the new light with a single allen bolt but need to buy the correct size for the bars, I'm hoping the 20.8MM will work for the new lights - thanks.
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/TCC9.html
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Yep, planning on fixing them to the crash bars... once I get the bars back from Norwich... Until them will put them somewhere else! :angry-tappingfoot:
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Hopefully there'll be a good range of fitting methods used (you've hogged the easiest one kirky lol ), I'm thinking of trying that extra strong 3M velcro stuff...it works on the headlight covers...
Can easily swap positions then (from engine-bars to under headlights etc)
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Search eBay for plastic pipe clips and you will have various mounting options.
I can't wait to see what individuals come up with . :thumb:
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Can I just say you're a credit to this site Jok: doing this off your own back and sending them out to relative strangers to abuse in the hope of eventually seeing some cash is a hell of a thing to do. :clap: :ty:
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Can I just say you're a credit to this site Jok: doing this off your own back and sending them out to relative strangers to abuse in the hope of eventually seeing some cash is a hell of a thing to do. :clap: :ty:
Tell me about it, :crazy:
I'm a few hundred quid out of pocket just now but I firmly believe that the lights will prove to be reliable and that the testers will be good enough to either return the lights or pay the cost of the materials when testing concludes. ( I have found that most motorcyclists I have met are more reliable and trustworthy than your average joe blogs )
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Watch this space, come August I'll have 20 sets of second hand lights fitted to my bike. lol lol :shock:
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And while I'm on here I have a confession to make, I didn't get any lights made today, sorry .
Putbinoot arrived on my doorstep at 08:00 this morning for a coffee. We decided to go for a quick ride out and quickly clocked up 200miles through the Scottish Borders stopping at Langholm for a lovely fish tea before blasting home to get the kids from school.
Sometimes you Got to go for it when you can . :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
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Watch this space, come August I'll have 20 sets of second hand lights fitted to my bike. ::): ::): :shock:
Hopefully at least some will still be working.... :grin:
Sometimes you Got to go for it when you can
Agreed: now get back to the grindstone boy..... :violence-smack:
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Shaking it boss !!
Expect your lights by Monday at the very latest now . :thumb:
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pay the cost of the materials when testing concludes.
Without question... To be honest if they are good and reliable I will be happy paying a bit more than just the cots of materials. Seems only fair to me. :)
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OK, the following testers lights will be posted by Friday for delivery on Monday.
All,other lights are already on the way.
BatKam
MartinW
MrNick
Little_Chris
TLPower
BigPie
Gassoon
Scorpiorojo
StevieM
Thanks once again for your patience . Jok :thumb:
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pay the cost of the materials when testing concludes.
Without question... To be honest if they are good and reliable I will be happy paying a bit more than just the cots of materials. Seems only fair to me. :)
No, a deal is a deal . :thumb: your lights went out yesterday btw . :thumb:
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No, a deal is a deal . :thumb: your lights went out yesterday btw . :thumb:
Thanks my good man! Looking forward to getting them! :grin: :ty:
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Search eBay for plastic pipe clips and you will have various mounting options.
I can't wait to see what individuals come up with . :thumb:
I'm secretly hoping someone goes with this option....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/22MM-NAIL-IN-PIPE-CLIPS-10-FOR-THE-PRICE-OF-5-that's-RIGHT-10-FOR-1-99-/150792496665?pt=UK_DIY_Materials_Plumbing_MJ&hash=item231beee619
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Search eBay for plastic pipe clips and you will have various mounting options.
I can't wait to see what individuals come up with . :thumb:
I'm secretly hoping someone goes with this option....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/22MM-NAIL-IN-PIPE-CLIPS-10-FOR-THE-PRICE-OF-5-that's-RIGHT-10-FOR-1-99-/150792496665?pt=UK_DIY_Materials_Plumbing_MJ&hash=item231beee619
Pity they're not available in blue to match the Navigator. Should still work, kind of magnetic, one nail attracted to another.
Looking forward to testing the lights high speed capabilities.......
Speed of light anyone?
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I'm lucky enough for my company to have had a load of racking installed. One of the connector joints is a figure of 8 (28mm I.D), which is ideal for fitting the lights to the crash bars.
The joints are here for anyone interested:
http://www.trilogiq-store.com/lang-en/connector-joints/11-joint-de-jumelage.html
You may be able to request a couple of samples?
I shall take some pics of them fitted, once they arrive. They will, of course need some rubber sheeting to decrease the I.D for the lamps and perhaps some electricians tape for the crash bar (not only to decrease the ID but to also protect the powder coat).
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The joints are here for anyone interested:
http://www.trilogiq-store.com/lang-en/c ... elage.html (http://www.trilogiq-store.com/lang-en/connector-joints/11-joint-de-jumelage.html)
Hmmmm - nice!
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that's a really tidy solution... Might have to rethink the tape and zip tie solution in favour of something a bit more professional looking!
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Front lights arrived just now........Woo Hoo...
Will fit them as soon as I have suitable bracketeering sorted out.
:ty: Jok.
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mine are here too :clap: was expecting up and back risers though but up will be fine :shrug:
Thanks mate :lala: will put some fotos asap :auto-dirtbike:
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mine are here too :clap: was expecting up and back risers though but up will be fine :shrug:
thanks mate :lala: will put some fotos asap :auto-dirtbike:
Shit, sorry bout the risers mate, I'll refund them if you want ?
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NO M8 THESE should be fine, I'll fit them at the weekend and let you know :)
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OOOOOOHHHHHHHHH Shiny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hooked em up to the battery look amzingingly bright, will fit at the weekend as I'm still getting it ready for its MOT tomorrow, finished doing the valves last night at 23:30....... :violin:.... You can hear them working now as they had nearly closed up. I've set them to the top end of the clearance on all 8.
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Mine arrived today, just in time for me to go back to work, doh!
I'll fit them on Tuesday now.
Cheers
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Are u ready for a sneak peek of the Mk1 K-Lite wide tails ???? :grin:
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First look
(http://imageshack.com/a/img823/1614/q3mo.jpg)
Yes I know I need to tidy my bench .
(http://imageshack.com/a/img23/9123/x3yg.jpg)
(http://imageshack.com/a/img534/6949/0ed5.jpg)
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These are good, but they are just not quite K-Lite good just yet . Another of couple of weeks development required yet. Sorry blokes . :thumb:
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My fronts arrived today, trying to figure the best way to fit them until I get my engine bars in a few days time. Think I can do something but might hold off to save the hassle of having to fit them, then re-fit them if that's okay?
Also loving the look of the rear!
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My fronts arrived today, trying to figure the best way to fit them until I get my engine bars in a few days time. Think I can do something but might hold off to save the hassle of having to fit them, then re-fit them if that's okay?
Also loving the look of the rear!
Sharpy, hold off and fit them to the engine bars mate. It gives you good separation from the headlights and makes the bike uber visible . :thumb:
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Jebus H Christ !!
I just trialled another red cree q6 bulb and I think I'm blind !! It was like someone shining a laser pen into my eyes !!
Wide brake lights or fog lights anyone ?? :grin:
These would make ideal wide rear DLR's but they would need to be switched off for night riding. There would be cages running off the road everywhere behind you . lol lol
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That red glare looks like a sun gone nova, Jok!
You'll have to get warning stickers made up ;-)
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Looking good !!
PS your Bench is tidier than mine...........
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Yes I know I need to tidy my bench
I thought it was your Kitchen.
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lol lol
Yes I know I need to tidy my bench
I thought it was your Kitchen.
Aye , the wife went mental when she came home from work to find the vice mounted to the kitchen work top .
Women !! Hmph !! They just don't understand . lol lol
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I'll trial fit a set of wide tails to my bike and check them out in the high sun but personally I think you need a lower lumen red light with larger diameter lens to give off the desired effect. We ain't dead in the water yet with rears though . Stay with me , we'll get there in the end . :thumb:
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OK, so mine arrived yesterday and having some time at home yesterday and today I have fitted mine.
I did go for the basic cheap and cheerful install for now as I wanted them on and ready for testing. I have fitted mine to the crash bars, using a black silicone sealant for bonding and black tape to hold it all in place. I have wired them back to a switched live off of the fuse box. I will fit a relay at the weekend as I have a couple of items running from this now and I don't want to overload it.
They light up lovely and tomorrow should be able to get out and about.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/76590190/vstrom/2014-03-28%2010.27.32.jpg)
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I don't believe this ! I just opened a packet of materials to finish making the second batch of lights for dispatch tomorrow and the supplier has sent the wrong stuff .
After all I would never have ordered the wrong stuff . :text-datsphatyo: :text-datsphatyo: :text-datsphatyo:
I've ordered replacement material that will hopefully be here on Tuesday so I'll get the lights out on Wednesday by first class post.
If I don't then you have my permission to line up and take turns at toeing me right in the bollocks!!!
Sorry fellas, this will be the last delay guaranteed. :old:
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Currently it costs me just short of £15 to make a set of these lights and post them out. It takes me around 1 hour per set to make and test and I was thinking of offering them for £20 posted which would include a 90 day no quibble replacement guarantee.
You might be good at electrics but you are clueless at business. You should be charging £30-45 to make it viable. Problem is ebay may undercut you a lot with a proper fitting kit thrown in.
Don't be a mug and sell them all at a loss. Think, a single failure, how many do you have to sell to cover that loss. Make sure your postage is done properly because there are those out there will say they never arrived.
As a matter of interest, that is what BMC did with the first Minis and look where that got them.
Please don't be offended by this, just an olde farte who has made similar mistakes talking.
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Currently it costs me just short of £15 to make a set of these lights and post them out. It takes me around 1 hour per set to make and test and I was thinking of offering them for £20 posted which would include a 90 day no quibble replacement guarantee.
You might be good at electrics but you are clueless at business. You should be charging £30-45 to make it viable. Problem is ebay may undercut you a lot with a proper fitting kit thrown in.
Don't be a mug and sell them all at a loss. Think, a single failure, how many do you have to sell to cover that loss. Make sure your postage is done properly because there are those out there will say they never arrived.
As a matter of interest, that is what BMC did with the first Minis and look where that got them.
Please don't be offended by this, just an olde farte who has made similar mistakes talking.
Funnily enough I have my own pressure washing business that is bleeding me dry . I guess I just don't know how to price things correctly mate. :crazy:
I have just changed the construction method for the lights to MK 3 in order to ensure total reliability and as such they cost about £2 more per set to manufacture . I may need to add a couple of quid onto the lights once testing is complete, but please don't think I'm in this for the money. I'm a motorcyclist who is sick of throwing good money after bad when it comes to lights and if I can get these lights super reliable with a good warranty at a decent price to fellow bikers then I'll be a happy chappy!!
What I can't do is make them at a loss though. If I get the price of a pint from each set of lights then I'm happy. :thumb:
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Gentlemen, as posted earlier, unfortunately I ordered the wrong materials to construct the next tranche of lights, however, I have noticed that my own lights seem to have condensated very slightly between the primary and secondary lenses . This does not affect the operation of the lights & I think it may be because I used quartz crystal glass lenses on the first few sets and the temperature differential may be causing this, I certainly don't think that they are letting in water.Hopefully the MK2 lights with polycarbonate lenses won't suffer from this. If however they do it's an easy fix and I will offer replacement lights free of charge on return of any defective items to those who have purchased lights so far. If you are testing the lights however and they do this , please continue use until failure or completion of the test period. I have radically changed the construction method for the new MK3 lights to negate this problem. Hell, this may not even be a problem, but if it is then I have a definate solution already.
Any problems or observations at all from testers or purchasers , please let me know blokes, I need feedback.
Regards, Jok . :thumb:
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If I get the price of a pint from each set of lights then I'm happy. :thumb:
Don't grudge a man his pint!
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If I get the price of a pint from each set of lights then I'm happy. :thumb:
Don't grudge a man his pint!
8 sets a day should just about cover my alcohol addiction :thumb:
Your new and improved MK3 K-Lite bullets should be out on Wednesday Mr Nick, sorry for the delay bro!
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Jok, I can see where hilldweller is coming from, and he's got good points with your interests at heart :) , as he's worried you come a cropper, but we can all see you're giving this a good go with an experimental stage. I'm sure all on the forum appreciate and applaud your efforts and that you are doing this in your own time, so no need to apologise for delays etc! This ain't ebay!
And the pints will be a bonus on top of covering the costs of materials and whatnot! :thumb: :clap:
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I've moved this topic out of For Sale in here now (even though it's not strictly V-Strom specific.) Should get more more eyes in here, some people would only look in the For Sale section if the were looking for something. When you start selling them as a product you can make a post in the For Sale section just for the selling. I'd be a good idea to reference this post here then.
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I've moved this topic out of For Sale in here now (even though it's not strictly V-Strom specific.) Should get more more eyes in here, some people would only look in the For Sale section if the were looking for something. When you start selling them as a product you can make a post in the For Sale section just for the selling. I'd be a good idea to reference this post here then.
Thanks Juv , appreciated mate :thumb:
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I am planning on using a switch to allow me to turn them on and off, its pretty simple but do I need to put a fuse in as well? Assuming the drain is low so I am not sure how much I would need the fuse, but it seems like reasonable practice.
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I am planning on using a switch to allow me to turn them on and off, its pretty simple but do I need to put a fuse in as well? Assuming the drain is low so I am not sure how much I would need the fuse, but it seems like reasonable practice.
Never have a wire direct to the battery, one short and you have a fire on your hands. The fuse, in this case needs to be as close to the battery + as possible.
You might not need an extra fuse if you piggy back off the sidelight/dipped fuse.
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Figured as much, and was always the plan, just wanted to double check. Not piggy backing it, want a standalone switch.
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Figured as much, and was always the plan, just wanted to double check. Not piggy backing it, want a standalone switch.
I've got mine switched with inline fuse along with my autocom and chain oiler . I.e. One switch does all 3 .
Output of lights is 14 watts so I'm sure someone will be along in a minute to advise which fuse rating to use.
personally I'd go with a 5amp :thumb:
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1.16 amp at 12v is 14 watts and as the running voltage of the bike will be higher, so 2 amp should good.
Correct me if I am wrong.
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Figured as much, and was always the plan, just wanted to double check. Not piggy backing it, want a standalone switch.
Direct to the battery, I wouldn't, you're bound to forget to turn them off one day and the bike battery is not that big. I once killed a near brand new battery because I turned the key to park, left the side lights on and went away for a week.
Go via a fuse to the ignition. In this case an extra fuse is called for because the ignition fuse could be big enough to burn the thin wires needed for the LEDs. Basically the fuse needs to be low enough to pop before the wires start burning.
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That my good man is a very, very good point! Can I use the Heated grip connection (heated grips use it) and piggy back that circuit!
Love this place... I would have been sat somewhere :bawl: due to me being a :crazy: !
Cheers
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That my good man is a very, very good point! Can I use the Heated grip connection (heated grips use it) and piggy back that circuit!
Cheers
I can't see why not, you're only drawing an amp or so.
I can't tell what the ignition switch is fused at from my diagram so just in case fit a small fuse ( 3 or 5A ) next to the heated grip connector. It's a good idea anyway because if you got a short on the LED circuit the bike keeps running rather than blow the ignition fuse.
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fitted mine today (Thanks jok) :)
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(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/kiss_of_death_uk/new%20lights/20140331_202254.jpg) (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/kiss_of_death_uk/media/new%20lights/20140331_202254.jpg.html)
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Your new and improved MK3 K-Lite bullets should be out on Wednesday Mr Nick, sorry for the delay bro!
Nae rush Jok: bike's going to be off the game until at least Thursday & I'm away at the weekend.
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Looking good Paul, but what's with the wiring ? Are the tails not long enough to route round the engine bars mate ?
I've made the tails .75m long to keep costs down but if they aren't long enough I'd like to know.
Where's all the other photos chaps ?? :eusa-doh:
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the foto was taken before I taped it all up, could have done to have been an inch or so longer but I think that's more to do with how I connected them :shrug:
but all is well m8, :ty: :clap:
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I wouldn't worry too much about connecting them direct to the battery. I left my LED lights on all day, and the wee still (just about) started. These have much less draw, so you should be fine.
It can sometimes be quite useful having a reasonable amount of light to work/see by when the bike's off :)
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I wouldn't worry too much about connecting them direct to the battery. I left my LED lights on all day, and the wee still (just about) started. These have much less draw, so you should be fine.
It can sometimes be quite useful having a reasonable amount of light to work/see by when the bike's off :)
Yes, handy for pitching the tent after a late arrival :thumb:
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Jok,
I think the tails you have on these lights are fine. Different people will wire them to different places, I have wired mine around my engine bars (Suzuki) and back under my seat. For me the tails are too short but I was not expecting to be provided with long enough tails.
The tail lengths enable the cable to be taken up into a safe area for connecting to a feeder wire which is then fed forward to the lights or back towards the fuse box area.
Personally I think the length is about right.
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Thanks for that Paul. That was my reasoning for making them that length. It means that any joint will be hidden behind the plastics and out of most of the weather and road grime.
If however the consensus is that the tails need to be longer then I'll go with that .
Good feedback mate, much appreciated. :thumb:
Regards, Jok
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The postman came bearing gifts today and I've made up another 10 sets of lights to be posted first class tomorrow. :lala:
Unfortunately I'm 2 sets of bulbs short to fulfil all orders but have ordered more which should be here tomorrow.
Purchased lights will take priority so the last 2 testers will have to wait a couple of days .
So, sorry in advance to Scorpiorojo and StevieM , you'll need to wait another couple of days lads !!
When all orders are fulfilled I will start working on wide tail lights.
Unfortunately I have decided not to trial the rears as they are made with the exact same components as the front and as such, I don't feel there will be any benefit . If you asked to trial the rears I can only apologise but please see it from my point of view both financially and time wise .
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OK, 9 sets of lights packaged and will be posted first class tomorrow morning for the following forum members
Gentlemen, please please let me know as soon as you receive them so that I can update my list.
BatKam
MartinW
MrNick
Little_Chris
TLPower
BigPie
Gassoon
Holmsey
10Tenmen
I made a set of wide tails and wide brake lights for myself ( well, I'm due a wee treat for all my hard work)
The wide brake lights are just mental bright . :grin:
I'll get some pics up once I get em fitted .
Regards, Jok .
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Great stuff Jok. Play Time for me this weekend then :lala:
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:ty: :thumb:
No play time for me, working this weekend :-x
Will have to fit them in a fortnight
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The postman brought more bulbs today so all orders will be fulfilled and posted tomorrow. 9 sets went out today.
I originally said by the end of March so I'm 2 days late. Sorry once again for the delays.
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Hi are you taking any more orders? Id love a set?
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If the answer to wideboy's q is yes you may have quite a lot of response...
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I've just ordered the clamp brackets and worked out where to fit them, as I don't have crash bars. I'll keep you posted.
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I've just ordered the clamp brackets and worked out where to fit them, as I don't have crash bars. I'll keep you posted.
Which clamps and where are you fitting them ?, I am in the same predicament I also am crash barless and hopefully will be receiving my lights shortly Cheers :thumb:
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I can supply snap to fit mounting clips that are small , lightweight and easy for flush mounting on a flat surface
You can hot glue the clips in position or mount them using an 8 or 10mm nut and bolt for example on the lower panel under the headlights.
Clips are £3 per pair posted and could probably be mounted in existing mounting holes under the front fairing . If you can wait until Saturday night I'll trial fit a pair of lights to check that they work effectively and to show you exactly what I mean .
Regards, Jok .
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Lights should start arriving today chaps. Please let me know when you receive them so that I can update my list. Thanks in advance, Jok . :thumb:
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I've just ordered the clamp brackets and worked out where to fit them, as I don't have crash bars. I'll keep you posted.
Which clamps and where are you fitting them ?, I am in the same predicament I also am crash barless and hopefully will be receiving my lights shortly Cheers :thumb:
I'll take a photo tomorrow of a light taped in place.
As for the clips they are just simply rubber lined p clips. Here 140693078880 on eBay.
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I've just ordered the clamp brackets and worked out where to fit them, as I don't have crash bars. I'll keep you posted.
I'll take a photo tomorrow of a light taped in place.
As for the clips they are just simply rubber lined p clips. Here 140693078880 on eBay.
Cheers :thumb:
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I can supply snap to fit mounting clips that are small , lightweight and easy for flush mounting on a flat surface
You can hot glue the clips in position or mount them using an 8 or 10mm nut and bolt for example on the lower panel under the headlights.
Clips are £3 per pair posted and could probably be mounted in existing mounting holes under the front fairing . If you can wait until Saturday night I'll trial fit a pair of lights to check that they work effectively and to show you exactly what I mean .
Regards, Jok .
Cheers Jok :thumb:
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:lala:
Lights have arrived in a polythene bag apparently damaged in transit via royal mail with their apologies :wtf:
Took a look but it appears the packaging was only damaged, I've tested the lights on the battery in my shed and they work perfectly (they are bright !!!!!!!!!!) :shock: :)))
But I think its a endorsement on the build quality from Jok ..... If they can survive the Royal Mail they can survive anything :thumb:
These lights will now hold a place next to the cockroaches as the only things that will be left alive after a nuclear war lol
Cheers Jok I shall be ordering your Stop/Tail lights shortly
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Mine have arrived they look great. I'll get around to fitting them soon...thanks.
Pm sent re fitting clips :)
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Mine arrived Jok and they look good. Will fit over the weekend sometime.
:ty: :clap:
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Mine arrived today too :). Now I need to find time to put them on the bike
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Arrived thanks Jok, A-OKay :thumb: Fitting next week, I have some P clips already, but want to try the dual-lock first...
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:lala:
Lights have arrived in a polythene bag apparently damaged in transit via royal mail with their apologies :wtf:
Took a look but it appears the packaging was only damaged, I've tested the lights on the battery in my shed and they work perfectly (they are bright !!!!!!!!!!) :shock: :)))
But I think its a endorsement on the build quality from Jok ..... If they can survive the Royal Mail they can survive anything :thumb:
These lights will now hold a place next to the cockroaches as the only things that will be left alive after a nuclear war ::):
Cheers Jok I shall be ordering your Stop/Tail lights shortly
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Holmsey, I assume you got the one padded envelope mate. Sorry bout that but I ran out of padded ones and had to scrape some second hand ones together.
I'll need to visit the pound shop for some new ones. Glad to hear lights survived OK though. :thumb:
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Mine have also arrived, can't wait to fit them.
Many thanks.
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Mine arrived too, just Got to figure out how to mount them, many thanks
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I can't wait to see pictures of the lights fitted gents . :thumb:
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Just looked at my bike. The Givi bars are a substantially different shape to those in the example photo's in this post, so are not parallel to the ground at any point. So I might need to think of something a bit different here. Even at full stretch in a straight line, the battery is further away than the cable allows, so I wonder if the Givi bars are a bit further forward too ?
Connected them to the battery though ... very nice.
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:lala:
Lights have arrived in a polythene bag apparently damaged in transit via royal mail with their apologies :wtf:
Took a look but it appears the packaging was only damaged, I've tested the lights on the battery in my shed and they work perfectly (they are bright !!!!!!!!!!) :shock: :)))
But I think its a endorsement on the build quality from Jok ..... If they can survive the Royal Mail they can survive anything :thumb:
These lights will now hold a place next to the cockroaches as the only things that will be left alive after a nuclear war ::):
Cheers Jok I shall be ordering your Stop/Tail lights shortly
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Holmsey, I assume you got the one padded envelope mate. Sorry bout that but I ran out of padded ones and had to scrape some second hand ones together.
I'll need to visit the pound shop for some new ones. Glad to hear lights survived OK though. :thumb:
Jok ... Its not a problem ....... The bubble wrap around the lights protected them.
Won't be able to fit them till next weekend though due to work.
I might need the clips but will wait for other solutions from people without the crash bars
Thanks again ... Top job mate :thumb:
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Just looked at my bike. The Givi bars are a substantially different shape to those in the example photo's in this post, so are not parallel to the ground at any point. So I might need to think of something a bit different here. Even at full stretch in a straight line, the battery is further away than the cable allows, so I wonder if the Givi bars are a bit further forward too ?
Connected them to the battery though ... very nice.
If you have an engine bash plate speak to Putbinoot. He mounted his down there and they look fantastic.
Failing that I can provide snap to fit brackets for mounting on the under light fairing panel or any flat surface
These are £3 per set posted but I'm going to trial mount them on my bike first to check that they look OK.
I'll post pictures up on Sunday night of the lights fitted under the front fairing . :thumb:
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Cheers Jok - I will look at some options and wait and see what you do too :thumb:
I don't have a bash plate though.
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Surely the Givi bars can't be that far off of parallel mate? I'm sure the double P clip method would work fine as you could bend / manipulate the bracket into position. You would just have to mount the lights to the bars then give them a wee twist until they were parallel .
FYI, The cables are just long enough so that they are hidden behind the plastics of the bike. You can extend the cables as required mate it won't affect the lights or your warranty. :thumb:
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MartinW my Suzuki bars are not parallel to the ground either they slope forwards. But the brightness of the lights is such that you don't have to point the lights completely where you want them. They have a good spread of light in terms of being seen by other road users ( well those that use their eyes )
In regards to the tails, I was able to run mine along the top eminent bar to it's mounting point and then along and behind the the back of the fuel tank under the saddle. I joined a new cable from there to my switched live which I have behind my battery.
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Hoping to have my engine bars next week, then I will get in the garage and fit these lights as well. Got loads of bits and bobs to fit to Strom! :)
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Just looked at my bike. The Givi bars are a substantially different shape to those in the example photo's in this post, so are not parallel to the ground at any point. So I might need to think of something a bit different here. Even at full stretch in a straight line, the battery is further away than the cable allows, so I wonder if the Givi bars are a bit further forward too ?
Connected them to the battery though ... very nice.
OK, I don't have Kirky lights but I had a bash at making something similar. I also have Givi bars and as you have found there isn't a single plane on them that points in the right direction!! What I used are some clamps I found in the maintenance room at work and they are called cable cleats.
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Mounted at the front of the crash bar means I can rotate them as required in all directions. Yes its not a sleek and sophisticated solution but it works for me!! :)
Hope this helps
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Nice TaulPaul - At the moment I have them cable tied to the inside of the plastic Givi block at the top, will see where they point later and whether I can asjust them enough.
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TallPaul those lights and mounting are bang tidy mate. Very nice. Could you not mount them inside the bars though in case the bike goes over at some point. Just a thought . :thumb:
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TallPaul those lights and mounting are bang tidy mate. Very nice. Could you not mount them inside the bars though in case the bike goes over at some point. Just a thought . :thumb:
I wasn't too happy with the lights as they look a bit industrial! Yours are far more tidy! Good point on the brackets. I will try them the other way round. I was going for maximum separation but I think you're right! :thumb:
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I like the robust industrial look mate, right up my street :thumb:
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I'd like a pair if they are still available ,,PM on it's way :)
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Came back from a couple of days away to find them on the doorstep. Some git had got to the address label though.....
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Came back from a couple of days away to find them on the doorstep. Some git had got to the address label though.....
:shock: I hope they hadn't written anything offensive in a Billy Connoly fashion mate . :grin:
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I'd like a pair if they are still available ,,PM on it's way :)
Replied to Locky . :thumb:
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Mine were waiting for me on the door mat, they look pretty well made, I can't remember how much you are going to want me to send you for them, as you aren't getting them back :D
Hopefully get them fitted tomorrow while I'm at yours TLPower, if you don't mind :D
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Just hooked them up to 12v blimey they are bright. Cables look well over spec'd for just over an amp of current.
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Mine were waiting for me on the door mat, they look pretty well made, I can't remember how much you are going to want me to send you for them, as you aren't getting them back :D
Hopefully get them fitted tomorrow while I'm at yours TLPower, if you don't mind :D
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Just hooked them up to 12v blimey they are bright. Cables look well over spec'd for just over an amp of current.
Yes , cables are a bit of overkill bigpie , I may look at using lighter cable in future
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I couldn't wait any longer until I find some suitable clips so used electrical tape for the time being. Although I like the rough look of it.
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One thing for the future kirky, I would prefer to have longer cables to play with. Maybe double the length. With the ones I have it was almost stretched in order to meet them at connection point
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Do you think you have enough tape on them mate ?? :shock:
They certainly won't fall off in a hurry . :grin:
They don't look very impressive in the picture from the front of the bike, are they pointing slightly down or something ?? They certainly look a lot brighter on my bike :shrug:
I'll look into longer cables. Thanks for the feedback and hope you are happy with the lights otherwise.
Regards, Jok . :thumb:
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Do you think you have enough tape on them mate ?? :shock:
They certainly won't fall off in a hurry . :grin:
I had pack of 5 so thought that better be be safe than sorry ;). For sure I have overdone it but as you say I know that they won't fall off
Kam
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Out of interest what power do they need? I have no other add ons except from heated grips. I should be OK, right?
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Out of interest what power do they need? I have no other add ons except from heated grips. I should be OK, right?
The lights are designed to work from 9v to 30v and draw just over 1amp combined so power shouldn't be a problem . For some reason the picture from the front seems to do the lights a disservice. I honestly can't look at mine directly as they hurt my eyes even in direct sunlight.
Others have also commented on here about how bright they are. Perhaps it's just your camera. :shrug:
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The lights are mounted directly onto the bars and when the bike is on its centre stand they are not horizontal.
I can't looked at them directly so no worry about them not working correctly.
I will see how they work at night with me on the bike.
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The lights are mounted directly onto the bars and when the bike is on its centre stand they are not horizontal.
I can't looked at them directly so no worry about them not working correctly.
I will see how they work at night with me on the bike.
Thanks for the quick reply Kamil, that's put my mind at rest. :thumb:
Regards, Jok .
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Price increase proposal.
Due to me being a total numpty and not factoring the price of consumables into my selling price for things like padded envelopes , soldering wire, gas for soldering iron, fuel for the car to run back and forward to the post office , scalpel blades , hot glue sticks etc etc not to mention any damaged cree bulbs or warranty claims that come in .
Due to these oversights I may have to increase the price of the front lights slightly.
Naturally I don't want to do this, but at present it takes about 1 hour start to finish to make a set of lights and I currently make around £3 per set ( I originally thought it was around £5 ) therefore, regrettably I may need to increase the price to around £22.50 .
At present I have made around 36 sets of lights and all profits have went on consumables.
I stated when I started this project that I wasn't doing it to become rich beyond my wildest dreams but they have taken over a large chunk of my life and although I'm proud to be supplying the lights I am seeing very little personal benefit for the hours I'm putting in to making them .
I guess what I'm saying is do you think it's acceptable to ask for an extra couple of quid to cover costs ?
I'll leave the price at £20 for now until I get a general consensus . Thanks for your help, regards, Jok . :thumb:
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Charge £25 so you don't have to raise the price in the near future if something you need to buy for them increases in price. Honestly, I'd be asking £30 if it was me, no matter how much satisfaction you get you won't want to continue if you think it's not worth it. I think they are still a good deal at £30.
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Likewise Jok, They are worth £30 of anyones money :thumb:
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£30 :shock: no , too much , particularly when they are still in development and testing stage . Perhaps in a years time if there is still a demand and they prove to be ultra reliable which I think they will.
I'm charging £25 each for the rears which I think is about right. The fronts are very slightly less to make and that's where the logic of £22.50 came from . Perhaps it would be just as easy to price them all the same though :shrug:
I'll never win businessman of the year , that's for sure . :crazy: :grin:
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Here's some pics of mine on the bike.
As connected, on the Givi bars, slightly pointing tdownwards, which I guess should stop me blinding anyone.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3681/13676311625_aa47c56f9c.jpg)
Switched on during the daytime
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Switched on in the dark
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I tried to take a picture of the ground just in front of the bike, with the lights on. That worked OK, but the comparison shot of the same point on the ground with the lights off was just a black sqaure. I know my photography skills are not up to much, but I thought I might see something. Looks like the lights must be good.
Will ride the bike in the dark one night after work.
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Not seen those givi plastic crash bar jobbies before what are they ?
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Not seen those givi plastic crash bar jobbies before what are they ?
Only had the bars a year, so I think it's something Givi have started recently.
All I can think is that the purpose is the first time you drop it you only trash the bit of plastic and don't scrape the bars. Free advertising for Givi too. but I'm sure there is a better explanation. I noticed TallPaul had them on a photo he posted a few days ago. Maybe Givi reserve them for giants.
I did wonder if the lights might melt the plastic? Will have to see if the get warm after being on for a while.
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Not seen those givi plastic crash bar jobbies before what are they ?
Only had the bars a year, so I think it's something Givi have started recently.
All I can think is that the purpose is the first time you drop it you only trash the bit of plastic and don't scrape the bars. Free advertising for Givi too. but I'm sure there is a better explanation. I noticed TallPaul had them on a photo he posted a few days ago. Maybe Givi reserve them for giants.
I did wonder if the lights might melt the plastic? Will have to see if the get warm after being on for a while.
Lights will get very slightly warm to the touch. Absolutely nothing to worry about there mate :thumb:
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The lights are designed to work from 9v to 30v
Hmm, does higher voltage make them any brighter or just lower the current draw? Wheels turning in my noggin....
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The lights are designed to work from 9v to 30v
Hmm, does higher voltage make them any brighter or just lower the current draw? Wheels turning in my noggin....
Nah they won't go any brighter mate they will just produce more heat and shorten the bulb life. :thumb:
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Ah well, worth asking. Bike's back home today so looking at the mounting options now.
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Ah well, worth asking. Bike's back home today so looking at the mounting options now.
Looking forward to pictures of lights on the KTM :thumb:
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OK , I've had a wee think about the pricing of the lights and , well , after listening to the good people of this here forum I think the easiest thing to do is price them all at £25 per set .
Fronts. £25
Wide tails. £25
Wide brakes. £25
Any purchase of any combination of 2 sets will attract a £5 discount. Eg , purchase a full rear package for £45, fronts and wide tails £45, 2 sets of fronts £45. You get the picture.
A full package of all 3 sets of lights would be £70 posted.
I hope this seems reasonable to everyone and if everyone feels that this is reasonable I'll stick an advert in the for sale section
Thanks once again for all your help and feedback . Regards, Jok .
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Jok, you shouldn't worry in the slightest, from what I've seen of the lights on here they are cheap, bright, easy to fit, and you're offering a decent warranty etc.
For £25 I doubt anyone can argue with what you're offering, not to mention you're putting the time into making them yourself from scratch. You deserve a pat on the back for making one set for yourself, then another pat for modifying the issues you discovered, and not to mention then sending out free sets for folk to review.
You could advertise these on pretty much every bike forum and I think they'd be an absolute hit. The only downside is if you had a pint for every set you sold your be too pissed to make them....
Keep up the good work. I'm without a bike currently and am very tempted to get a set just whilst the going is good!
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Stevee , cheers for that mate. :thumb:
OK , I have 2 sets of front lights left . These are available at £20 per set posted
Any further lights purchased will be £25 per set posted
To keep it fair the First 2 people to send a PM get the lights . Cheers , Jok
If you have ordered lights they have been posted today first class .
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1 set left for £20 . If your not fast your last !! :thumb:
All future sales will be at the new price of £25 posted .
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All lights now sold and any new sales will be at the new price of £25.
Lights will now be made to order with a turnaround time of 3-5 days.
Regards, Jok . :thumb:
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So, following Holmseys packaging being damaged and me trying to recycle envelopes I bit the bullet and bought 200 padded envelopes today .
Can anyone guess what my darling wife brought home for me today ??? lol lol :grin:
Looks like I'm going to have to try and shift a shed load of lights :crazy: :crazy:
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Dear moderators , I have now stuck an advert in the for sale section advertising front lights. Could a kind moderator now close this thread and link to the advert please . Regards, Jok @ K-Lite :thumb:
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=22267 (http://www.v-strom.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=22267)
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You're selling them as daylight running lights. AFAIK, DRLs have to be turned off/dimmed when you turn on your normal lights? Have you made sure these are legal to use seeing as the Strom headlights are always on?
Not meaning to put a spanner in the works, but it's best to check than find out that there's something wrong later.
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Hmmm , very good point . I'll stick a disclaimer in the envelope when I post them :thumb: or change the name to wide visibility front marker lights .
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DRLs must switch on with the vehicle ignition and switch off when the vehicle sidelights are switched on. They can also be made to function as front position (side) lights, which operate at a reduced intensity when the vehicle sidelights are switched on.
Apparently.
Just pretend that they run at a reduced intensity. I have no legal training and although I have met a solicitor once, this is not legal advice :)
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DRLs must switch on with the vehicle ignition and switch off when the vehicle sidelights are switched on. They can also be made to function as front position (side) lights, which operate at a reduced intensity when the vehicle sidelights are switched on.
Apparently.
Just pretend that they run at a reduced intensity. I have no legal training and although I have met a solicitor once, this is not legal advice :)
Good legal advice there Bigpie. More competent than the last bloody lawyer who represented me !! :thumb:
I'll point this out to buyers and advise them to wire the lights through a switch . :obscene-drinkingchug:
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My lights are going to come on with all the other lights that come on at the front when I turn the key, the more the merrier.
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My lights are going to come on with all the other lights that come on at the front when I turn the key, the more the merrier.
Sent today Andy, should be with you tomorrow :thumb:
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My first time posting pics so please be patient.
I went a little "out there" with my new kirkster lamps. Looking at the bathroom ceiling one day, I thought, what if I could mount my new lamps inside a downlighter?
I simply cut off the bulb holder with ceramic tile cutting disc, fastened the cree to the reflector part, then put the lamp and reflector into a section of mastic tube. I made the bracket from a leg from a now discarded sunlounger.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3796/13722024765_b4aa559f26.jpg)
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Hope this worked.
Not too well, how do I make my piccies bigger?
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Sent today Andy, should be with you tomorrow :thumb:
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Looking at the bathroom ceiling one day, I thought, what if I could mount my new lamps inside a downlighter?
Now that's clever , very well done mate those look brilliant . :thumb:
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Now that's clever , very well done mate those look brilliant . :thumb:
That is clever ....... I wonder if ?????? :fix:
NO ....... my better half won't let me take the hallway lights down :angry-tappingfoot:
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Thanks for the praises chaps. I'm not man enough to dismantle the bathroom ceiling, we picked up a 12 pack of halogen bulbs for a £1.
I sealed the end of the mastic tube with the plastic plug that pushes the mastic out of the tube.
Thanks again kirky for being one of the chosen few.
And thanks again to MartinW for doing your thing.
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Just a quick reminder chaps , if you get your lights OK please please let me know so that I can update my list . A few sets went out over the past 2 days and only a couple of folk have let me know . Thanks in advance , Jok :thumb:
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Hi Jok, mine arrived Monday. Will be fitting them on the weekend and I'll send you some photos. First impressions are really good.
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Hi Jok, mine arrived Monday. Will be fitting them on the weekend and I'll send you some photos. First impressions are really good.
Little _Chris , that's great , I can't even find you on my list lol could you possibly Pm me your details so that I can add you to the warranty list. Sorry mate, it's been mental here and you've obviously slipped through the net . Thanks in advance , regards, Jok :thumb:
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Jok,
Received my lights, can't wait for my crash bars to arrive so that I can fit them.
Cheers :)
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Hi Jok, mine arrived Monday. Will be fitting them on the weekend and I'll send you some photos. First impressions are really good.
Little _Chris , that's great , I can't even find you on my list ::): could you possibly Pm me your details so that I can add you to the warranty list. Sorry mate, it's been mental here and you've obviously slipped through the net . Thanks in advance , regards, Jok :thumb:
Little_chris , cancel last message mate! I found you. You are tester # 11 :thumb:
That's the Smirnoff effect for you :grin:
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Hi Jok, mine arrived Monday. Will be fitting them on the weekend and I'll send you some photos. First impressions are really good.
Little _Chris , that's great , I can't even find you on my list ::): could you possibly Pm me your details so that I can add you to the warranty list. Sorry mate, it's been mental here and you've obviously slipped through the net . Thanks in advance , regards, Jok :thumb:
Little_chris , cancel last message mate! I found you. You are tester # 11 :thumb:
That's the Smirnoff effect for you :grin:
SMIRNOFF !!!!!!!! ..... I thought you said you were not making money out of this, I can just about afford a 330ml can of Skol lol
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Some pics of the beta lights fitted and the fuse board that I have made. (hopefully the URL's will work).
Thanks again Jok, PM me regarding payment. Can you also post a pic of the mounting clip that you now supply with the lights. I want to compare it to my mounting method (yours may be better!!).
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on your fuse board have you got 2 live all the time and the rest relay tripped
j
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Hi J,
Yes mate, I have a thread for the fuse board:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=21363 (http://www.v-strom.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=21363)
I managed to find the connectors that Eastern Beaver uses for tapping into the brake light without altering the wiring.
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Engine bars arrived today, will get one with fitting them and the lights over the weekend. :)
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Lee,
That is one helluva bang tidy installation . Well done mate . PM replied to , no payment until July :thumb:
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Engine bars arrived today, will get one with fitting them and the lights over the weekend. :)
Did u go for the HEED Bars ??
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No, got a set of Givi ones from a chap on here, saved a few quid. Would have gone for the HEED ones otherwise.
Just after some exhausts now.... but I have a plan for that as well...
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First test done today, when I commuted to work and back (82 miles). Not really in the dark, but it was a bit gloomy when I left this morning.
I expected to get flashed a couple of times and it didn't happen. When I pulled up behind some cars/vans, I could only really see a relfection of my headlights in the back of the vehicle in front, the LED's were hard to see just to the sides and slightly lower.
So, I reckon they are pointing too far downwards, and that has to be a result of the downward facing top bar on the Givi Crash Bars. I think I need to raise the beam slightly and need to create an angle between the Givi Bar and the LED, so probably need a different mounting option.
I checked the temperature of the casing after an hours run and you wouldn't know it had been on. So it's a low power consumption for sure and no risk to melting the Givi Plastic mounting blocks.
It's only a perception, but I did find that overtaking was "made easy" for me by a couple of cars moving left to give me more space. That might also be due to me being far more confident on overtaking than I used to be and having better road presence.
So, inconclusive so far, I need to go change the angle to point further up the road and then try again.
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Nice report MartinW .
Thanks for that , for the earlier testers or purchasers I've noticed that one of my own original MK1 K-lites has gone slightly cloudy due to condensation after repeated washing with a pressure washer .After about an hour the light is perfect. This by no way affects the operation of the lights and I'm pretty sure that this will only affect MK 1 lights with crystal glass primary lenses . Please please , if for any reason you are not happy with your lights performance , let me know and I'll resolve the problem for you free of charge . This will be an easy fix and obviously things like this will inadvertently happen with a product in development . I just don't want unhappy punters out there . I really do appreciate everyone's help and feedback with these lights and with your help we will develop the perfect solution . I'm known at work as honest John and I'm very proud of that . If you do have a problem please give me the chance to fix it for you free of charge , my reputation is on the line here .
Thanks for your understanding , Jok, :thumb:
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There's no problem with the lights Jok. I get half blinded if I look straight at them. I just need to alter the angle of the mounting to point them further up the road.
They haven't been in the rain, or a wash yet, but I will check for the condensation you mentioned.
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Lights received Jok thanks. Popping out for some heat shrink and then hopefully fitting later. I have no bars so I'm not really sure where to go but will play around. Any thoughts (anyone?) on fixing them on the bars/forks steering unit somewhere? Is it a problem if the lights steer with me as opposed to being fixed on the main bike, if you see what I mean?
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Cables could present a problem, I wouldn't mount them on the front end.
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Lights received Jok thanks. Popping out for some heat shrink and then hopefully fitting later. I have no bars so I'm not really sure where to go but will play around. Any thoughts (anyone?) on fixing them on the bars/forks steering unit somewhere? Is it a problem if the lights steer with me as opposed to being fixed on the main bike, if you see what I mean?
I am in the same position having no engine bars. I was thinking of fabricating a bracket that could be attached to frame or trying to source a suitable fixing that could be adapted for the use.
Adapting Is all part of the fun though ......... Isn't it :shrug:
Hello !!!!!!!! another project for Jok lol
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Agreed. I was going to have a go with some tape on to the bungs but I suspect they might not be far enough out. Jacko, far point re cabling.
My son suggests on the sides of my helmet. I might pass on that.
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Engine bars fitted, I have been mocking up where to put the lights, should be easy enough. Now figuring out how to wire them through the switch... a trip to Halfords is in order for a fuse block and some cable.
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It's only a perception, but I did find that overtaking was "made easy" for me by a couple of cars moving left to give me more space. That might also be due to me being far more confident on overtaking than I used to be and having better road presence.
I did a blue light driving course some years ago and was taught a technique known as "presenting yourself", position your bike so your headlamp(s) appear in the drivers side mirror, they notice them more than the rear view mirror.
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Finally found a couple of hours to fit my Kirky Lights. I robbed the cycle light brackets off my daughters old bike and fitted them to the engine bars and secured the lights to them with cable ties. I'm hoping the following photos work as I'm uploading them off my mobile but if not I'll repost them off my pc later.
The handguard lights idea I pinched off a nice Welsh man forum member (I can't remember who) on a forum ride round Wales last year. The led lights behind the screen I bought off eBay at Christmas and the Kirky Lights are the bottom ones.
I hope people see me now.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/13/2u9yvypu.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/13/azama8ar.jpg)
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They'd have to be blind to miss you...!! :thumb:
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Now that looks good . :thumb:
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does anyone know if its legal to make these kirky lights flash, like on a push bike light? as that would help make us even more visible to the :text-datsphatyo: that pull out without seeing us
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Yes, it's illegal. It's even illegal on a push bike.
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Yes, it's illegal. It's even illegal on a push bike.
Thought the law changed a few years back for cycles? :shrug:
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Motorbike yes, pushbike no. Law for pushbikes changed in 2006 if I remember correctly.
Rule 60 of the highway code.
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bugger
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If I see a car sitting at a junction, particularly on a faster stretch of road or country road even , what I do ,and I'm sure it seems to work , is change road position with a quick bump of counter steer then a quick bump back
Like you are trying to avoid an object or pothole . It seems to make you more visible , I may be talking complete bollocks of course but it works for me . It's like the cage driver sits in the junction deciding whether they can get out in front of you , sometimes even crawling forward , but , do a quick shimmy shake and they stop and let you pass.
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I agree Jok.
Quick movements do indeed seem to make them look again..... :)
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I agree Jok.
Quick movements do indeed seem to make them look again..... :)
So, it's not just me, cheers Stibbs :thumb:
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I normally have quick movements when vehicles pull out in front of me, ...... Normally involves me turning round and returning home to change my underwear lol
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I normally have quick movements when vehicles pull out in front of me, ...... Normally involves me turning round and returning home to change my underwear ::):
No holmesy. That's "loose" movements lol
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I normally have quick movements when vehicles pull out in front of me, ...... Normally involves me turning round and returning home to change my underwear ::):
No holmesy. That's "loose" movements ::):
Not the way it leaves my body it isn't lol
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I normally have quick movements when vehicles pull out in front of me, ...... Normally involves me turning round and returning home to change my underwear ::):
No holmesy. That's "loose" movements ::):
Not the way it leaves my body it isn't ::):
That's shite !!! :grin:
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No more pictures of lights fitted yet :shrug:
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Finally found a couple of hours to fit my Kirky Lights. I robbed the cycle light brackets off my daughters old bike and fitted them to the engine bars and secured the lights to them with cable ties. I'm hoping the following photos work as I'm uploading them off my mobile but if not I'll repost them off my pc later.
The handguard lights idea I pinched off a nice Welsh man forum member (I can't remember who) (14.04.14 just remembered, think it was mr_diver) on a forum ride round Wales last year. The led lights behind the screen I bought off eBay at Christmas and the Kirky Lights are the bottom ones.
I hope people see me now.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/13/2u9yvypu.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/13/azama8ar.jpg)
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No more pictures of lights fitted yet :shrug:
Hopefully I will be fitting mine this weekend :lala:
I am going to PM you regarding the wiring for the rear lights as I will need some advice.
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Interesting article here:
http://goingfastgettingnowhere.blogspot ... ility.html (http://goingfastgettingnowhere.blogspot.co.uk/2010/10/rider-visibility.html)
and making yourself more visible. It's well know in the avaiation world that if something stays on the same relative heading then you're going to hit it, which makes bug splats on the cockpit window / canopy so much of a problem. And, because it's at a constant position you tend not to see it even if your eyes are looking at it, because we're designed to see / react to hazards that are moving. Going back a few thousand years a tree didn't move and wan't a hazard, a sabre tooth tiger did move, was a hazard so we "see" it. Similar logic for you on your bike approaching a junction with another vehicle wanting to turn, constant relative bearing = not being seen, gentle weaving = relative movement = more likely to be seen.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqQBubilSXU
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Good vid. :thumb:
Especially like the input from the woman from the association of Euro something and some such, her first priority is training for drivers, refreshing.
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It's well know in the avaiation world that.
I was thinking just that when the instructor mentioned "looming". Just the same description as flying though in flying it all happens a lot quicker.
I must say, weaving like that looks weird, likely to get you breathalysed by the cops or accused of theatening by the drivers. I've never seen it done.
One study has shown flashing or modulated lighting grabs their attention and headlight kits are available but I think they are illegal. Common now on pushbikes and they really do seem to work.
These LED lights are excellent for modulating, filament lamps don't like the heat stresses but LEDs no problem.
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Could do with a flasher button for them, 3 sets on the front set to flash rapidly when you hit the button is less likely to get you pulled than weaving about like a tool.
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Excellent video , that's exactly what I was trying to describe in my previous post . Good find :thumb:
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Could do with a flasher button for them, 3 sets on the front set to flash rapidly when you hit the button is less likely to get you pulled than weaving about like a tool.
Do me a favour Jacko ,Try the weave technique before totally dismissing it mate, it works without a shadow of a doubt . I may look like a complete tool when I'm doing it but I know how effective it is . :thumb:
I also know how little effect alternate flashing headlights , blue front repeaters , a blue strobing roof light bar , multi tone directional siren , two tone horns and bull horn / intersection horn are on a 14 ton Scania rescue pump. :thumb:
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Apologies Jok, only just got the engine bars and still need to get to halfords for some bits and bobs so I can run them switched. Aiming to get them sorted over Easter at the latest.
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Kirky, I'm not dismissing the technique, I'm sure it's effective and use it myself occasionally. But I'm sure to the untutored onlooker I look a complete tool.
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but at least they see you, even if they think you're drunk/stoned/falling off :)
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Could do with a flasher button for them, 3 sets on the front set to flash rapidly when you hit the button is less likely to get you pulled than weaving about like a tool.
I also know how little effect alternate flashing headlights , blue front repeaters , a blue strobing roof light bar , multi tone directional siren , two tone horns and bull horn / intersection horn are on a 14 ton Scania rescue pump. :thumb:
+1 for that Jok, there has been many a time I have been ignored with all of the above going in my police vehicle only for me to pass eventually and the driver in front looks bemused as to where you have come from.
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but at least they see you, even if they think you're drunk/stoned/falling off :)
Well, yes, ultimate goal achieved.
Aimlessly (seemingly) weaving about has been given as a reason for not liking bikers to me in conversation. They think we're just arsing about.
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I think what these hi-viz cree lights will be good for is catching the cage drivers eye . Even the briefest of glances and you are able to see them due to their size and luminance output .
Lights that are too big or powerful , even main beam on some vehicles can mask the silhouette, size, shape and speed of an approaching vehicle .
I've noticed on the motorway heading to work that I can sit behind a vehicle in their rear view mirror line and travel for ages without the driver in front noticing me ( just bad obs on their part ) but , if I reposition and make myself visible in either of the side mirrors I'm noticed almost instantly with the cree lights on and the driver pulls over to let me past . Most of the time I'm not looking to get past and am simply making progress with the flow of traffic .
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but at least they see you, even if they think you're drunk/stoned/falling off :)
Well, yes, ultimate goal achieved.
Aimlessly (seemingly) weaving about has been given as a reason for not liking bikers to me in conversation. They think we're just arsing about.
Jacko , we are only talking about those times when you are approaching a junction and your spidy senses start tingling . You have a feeling that you haven't been spotted so , you do a shimmy shake , roll off the throttle if need be and prepare to take further action as necessary .
I'm not talking about being all over the rear end of a car on the motorway weaving about like a dobber commanding other road users yield to your superior being . People that do that whether on a bike or in a car are just complete arseholes .
There is a very big difference mate . :thumb:
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+1 for that Jok, there has been many a time I have been ignored with all of the above going in my police vehicle only for me to pass eventually and the driver in front looks bemused as to where you have come from.
This is from behind, the numpty is not looking behind, the main danger is all in front and to the side. Well, usually, if traffic on a motorway suddenly slows I'm looking backwards a lot and looking for any escape route. On Italian motorways it is frightening, they must focus about 10 metres in front of their bonnets. I was always positioned to go lane splitting even if it ripped the mirrors off.
In this thread aren't we more concerned about the T-Bone SMIDSY where the driver is looking for you but needs a prod to recognise you. In this case I do believe a modulated light will be better than steady. Maybe that push button needs to be NC and you jab it a bit to blink them. Maybe a sensitive microswitch inserted in your sphincter is the answer.
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A sphincter micro switch , now there's an idea !! lol lol .
Needed , 10 beta testers.................... :shock: :shock: :shock: :grin: :grin:
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A sphincter micro switch , now there's an idea !! ::): ::): .
Needed , 10 beta testers.................... :shock: :shock: :shock: :grin: :grin:
You know where you can stick that idea....
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Sorry for that last post - it was just too obvious. :groan:
Anyway...
Now that I've got the bike back and finished galavanting around the country for a while I need to get mine mounted and abused: real effort this week! :fix:
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Sorry for that last post - it was just too obvious. :groan:
Didn't stop Bruce Forsyth making millions.
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Lenses have finally arrived , I'll start making lights up today and get em posted tomorrow . :thumb:
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I decided that I would ziptie them to the engine bars. As they are so light I think this will be more than strong enough. The only thing is that someone could pinch them easier than if they were clamped in a bracket, but if they wanted them that much anyway... :shrug:
Anyway, you can't really get much smaller and neater in the same package. Brightness is fine and having the lights lower down separates them from the headlights and my handguard LED's.
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i45/edwardatherton/1_zps6195628b.jpg) (http://s69.photobucket.com/user/edwardatherton/media/1_zps6195628b.jpg.html)
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That's a very tidy installation Ed . :thumb:
PM replied to . Jok .
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https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7z2x43ziaf7ae1t/-GO24DZ7gu
Couldn't get the img link to work but the URL does :shrug:
Anyway a few shots of my newly mounted Jok lights. They look great plus you get to see my new Puig engine bars. :)
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stibbs, that is a collection of images and will not work with the image tag. Edit*** You did an edit and fixed it.
Photos (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7z2x43ziaf7ae1t/-GO24DZ7gu)
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FTFY
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Those mounting brackets worked a treat Steve. :thumb:
Can I ask how you fixed them mate ? Just curious as I'm sure others will be .
Think that must be the neatest installation so far , well done , very tidy . :obscene-drinkingchug:
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It was just a case of attaching the little pipe clip you provided to the plastic fairing using a loctite nut & bolt. No secret there! The wiring was done by mate (I'm shite at electrickery) who wired in another block to the headlights so when the normal lights are on so are the bullets. When the full beam is on they're not!
Great product Jok, thank you :thumb:
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Quick update on the lights .
This week I have had 2 customers with 1 light each that was DOA .
I thoroughly test every set of lights before posting, so , the only thing I can think of is that they are getting damaged in transit .
I'll review my packaging and postage methods to try and ensure that this doesn't happen again .
Beta testers.......
One of the testers has reported a light clouding over . This is on a set of MK1 lights and I have changed the construction and sealing method since then . This is an easy fix but unfortunately it means returning the light to me for repair.
If anyone else has this problem just send me a PM and we'll get it sorted .
Please understand that these are Just minor teething problems that are covered by your warranty. That's why I beta tested the lights in the first place.
I have posted this up for everyone's information and to be as open ,transparent and honest as possible
Regards, Jok. :thumb:
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Thanks for the update Jok, so far I haven't had any problems with mine :occasion-balloons:
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I haven't tried mine yet, I'll test them when I get the chance.
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I haven't tried mine yet, I'll test them when I get the chance.
I'm confident that they'll be fine . Any problems just give me a shout mate . :thumb:
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I'm still waiting for Heed to get back to me regarding the forum price for the bars/bashplate combi.
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I was playing with ideas for placement last night (which I've now decided on & mounts are coming) and had the lights wired to an old 12v battery I rescued from a UPS. Both worked fine initially but then one seemed to develop an issue & went off. I would only give a brief flash and then nothing. When I tried it alone it seemed okay but wouldn't work as a pair.
This did confuse me for a minute until I checked the voltage on the battery: it was pretty ropey and dropping to around 6v with the load of both lights across it. On another battery (much healthier) it was fine. It was even weirder when I stuck the Optimate on the duff one & the light would come on dim, then bright, then go off as the charger pulsed into it...
It was slightly odd that one was apparently happy at that voltage & one wasn't.
It's not going to be an issue as it's never going to be running at that kind of voltage but could be that their specs aren't as consistent as they'd tell you.
On an interesting idea front, the pulsing was far more eye catching than a steady light: could something be rigged to cyclically switch on/off and would it be legal????
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We've discussed the idea of a pulse switch for possible smidsy encounters. The general consensus was weaving was far more conspicuous.
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received my rear Tail/Brake lights today ...... Tested on my bench, working perfectly.
Just have to wait for my son to finish work and hoping he remembers to bring the stuff home for me to fit them :D
Top job Jok :thumb:
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Mr Nick, AFAIK flashing lights on your bike light that is not legal.
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Didn't think it would be: OK for the lawless cyclists but not the rest of the world.....
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Didn't think it would be: OK for the lawless cyclists but not the rest of the world.....
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Mr Nick ,
I was sourcing bulbs from 2 different suppliers due to a rush on orders mate. It may just be that you have a bulb from each batch with different resistors in them. Bulbs should work from 9v to 30v. Thanks for the feedback mate . :thumb:
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Another quick update .
I've decided to change the construction method slightly after receiving feedback from testers.
Outwardly the lights won't change in appearance but inside they will be hermetically sealed as well as externally sealed to prevent water ingress or dampness. I'm also currently building a test rig and all lights will undergo a 5 hour burn in test to ensure reliability . To date I have made around 100 lights and had 2 Dead on arrival which I think we're damaged in transit and 2 with clouding / condensation issues . I have altered my postage and packaging to prevent any further postage related failures and the burn in test should identify any post manufacturing issues .
It's my goal to get these lights 100% ultra reliable, after all , that's why I started making them in the first place.
Thanks for all the help and support with this project , regards, Jok.
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Just a question regarding the LEDs. I bought what I believe are the same spec LEDs as your lights have. Are the lenses they come with not sealed? I'm curious as to why you fit lenses to your lights. Am I risking things going pop the first time it rains?!
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Just a question regarding the LEDs. I bought what I believe are the same spec LEDs as your lights have. Are the lenses they come with not sealed? I'm curious as to why you fit lenses to your lights. Am I risking things going pop the first time it rains?!
No mate , lenses are not sealed if you put your mouth over the end of the bulb and blow you will feel the air transfer . Many of them would probably suffice but I'm striving for 100% waterproof and 100% reliable. :thumb:
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No mate , lenses are not sealed if you put your mouth over the end of the bulb and blow you will feel the air transfer . Many of them would probably suffice but I'm striving for 100% waterproof and 100% reliable. :thumb:
Thanks for the confirmation. I figured that given how thoroughly you test everything there must be a good reason for the lens! Looks like I'm in the shit now! Damn, and it was all going so well...
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OK,
First 5 sets of the new double hermetically sealed front lights made up and subjected to a 12 hour burn in period .
£25 per set posted . Go on treat yourself it's Easter after all . :grin: :thumb:
Regards, Jok .
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the only thing I can think of is that they are getting damaged in transit .
If that is the case how do they cope with the shocks they get tied to a bike frame. So basically, no way.
You'll have to cut them open when you get them back.
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Only other thing I can think of Brian is a couple of bad bulbs from a secondary supplier that I used .
Anyway , the lights are getting tested to destruction .
Below is my temporary test rig until I get time to set a proper one up .
Lights will be given a 24 hour batch burn in test and one random light will be selected from every batch and submerged in the water barrel for 24 hours ( yes , that's a light in the water ) I'm currently at work and hopefully the lights will still be working tomorrow. .
Incidentally , the light in the water barrel was smacked off the garage wall 5 times forcefully to try and simulate a failure . Guess what ? Still shining bright !! As per the photo .
(http://imageshack.com/a/img838/9527/i01i.jpg)
I'm determined to make these lights indestructible . :thumb:
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Finally fitted mine over the weekend, photos to follow... (photobucket won't work from work?!)
So far so good out in the rain yesterday and they seem okay today.
Only thing I am not happy with is the way that I wired them in, its all a bit messy so I am off to buy some cable similar the the stuff used and fix that issue.
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In fact, Jok, where do you get the cable from? Or can I buy some off you?
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OK ,
I'm happy to announce that all lights survived the 24 hour burn in test and the 24 hour dunk tank test ( they are still on test after 31 hours with no problems whatsoever ) so I have decided that all lights will undergo a combined 24 hour burn in / dunk tank test prior to dispatch . This way I can guarantee reliability and waterproof properties for all customers . It means that turnaround time from order to dispatch / delivery will now be 5 days . This will give me time to construct and test EVERY set of lights for 24 hours prior to delivery . :thumb:
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Only other thing I can think of Brian is a couple of bad bulbs from a secondary supplier that I used .
Anyway , the lights are getting tested to destruction .
Below is my temporary test rig until I get time to set a proper one up .
Lights will be given a 24 hour batch burn in test and one random light will be selected from every batch and submerged in the water barrel for 24 hours ( yes , that's a light in the water ) I'm currently at work and hopefully the lights will still be working tomorrow. .
Incidentally , the light in the water barrel was smacked off the garage wall 5 times forcefully to try and simulate a failure . Guess what ? Still shining bright !! As per the photo .
(http://imageshack.com/a/img838/9527/i01i.jpg)
I'm determined to make these lights indestructible . :thumb:
Like I said before Cockroaches and these lights will be the only thing left after Armageddon :thumb:
Finally I can fit mine this weekend and look forward to posting the pics.
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Some basic pics, like I say not very happy with the wiring (not Jok's mine!) so I will be rewiring it all at some point and will take some more pics then, but up to now 2 wet rides and they seem all good!
(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o58/BikerSharp/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0478_zpsgli0yroc.jpg) (http://s117.photobucket.com/user/BikerSharp/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0478_zpsgli0yroc.jpg.html)
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(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o58/BikerSharp/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0480_zpsuavi0iup.jpg) (http://s117.photobucket.com/user/BikerSharp/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0480_zpsuavi0iup.jpg.html)
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Looking good Sharpy :thumb:
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Givi Bars Sharpy? I placed mine the same as you have. Let me know if they are pointing too far downwards as I think I need to raise mine a little.
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Mine seem okay, they do not run level, I will try and get a better pic but they are at an angle to the bar.
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Just ordered some cable so I can redo the wiring, I will take some pics of how not to wire something to a switch and then the 2nd version that will be much neater... Hopefully...
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My mounting clips arrived today so I set about getting mine fitted on the bike.
I have gone for mounting under the headlight attached to the grill surround: looks neat and the switched power outlet is behind the headlight so the wiring is hidden as well.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/92126794/Dsc_0514.jpg)
I have used stainless 25mm 'P' clips (meant to be 22 but I must have clicked on the wrong option :GRR: ) bolted through the valance with some old inner tube as packing.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/92126794/Dsc_0515.jpg)
They are bright enough to upset my phone's camera in the garage....
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/92126794/Dsc_0509.jpg)
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Very tidy instal Mr Nick .
I may start doing them in orange for KTM riders . :thumb:
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OK ,
Another update on these lights.
Following feedback from purchasers and beta testers I have changed the construction methods considerably again. The lights are now 30% smaller and lighter and should prove to be ultra reliable ( this was my primary goal )
I now disassemble pre built parts that I purchase and reassemble them to my own stringent quality control standards rather than trusting that they are constructed correctly from the factory.
In essence I am now building these lights from the individual component parts to make sure that I'm happy with them before testing and dispatch .
This adds time to the construction but it is something I am willing to do to assure customers of build quality.
I will start making these lights on return from my Euro tour next week and the rear lights will undergo the same changes.
Again , I'd like to thank everyone on the forum who has helped me in this endeavour and by Jove , I do believe I've finally reached the end product.
Thanks once again, Jok. :thumb:
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so the ends in light (sorry)
j
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so the ends in light (sorry)
j
No James, it's just the beginning , check this out !!..........
(http://imageshack.com/a/img837/2605/c4za.jpg)
Just how bright can you legally go ?
The latest installment incorporates 3 x CREE smd's mounted in a heatsink with driver etc. The lights are 53mm diameter by approx 50mm deep. The Lens produces a 60 degree beam pattern of super bright 7000k light .
They are seriously IN YOUR FACE bright !!
I'm currently conducting bench testing, primarily for heat build up, if this is successfull I'll move on to waterproof & vibration testing which should take me a couple of weeks.
All being well, These lights will retail at around £35 posted per set.
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BLINDED BY THE LIGHT :shy:
OK I'm going
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Hi all just an update,
I've had my Kirky Lights installed for a while now and they been through sunshine, rain, heavy downpours and spray from following other vehicles. Still looking bright, no build up of moisture inside the lens.
All in all they are still working and I am still pleased with them. :thumb:
Only had one day of them not working and that's down to the dodgy geezer who wired them in, oh actually that'll be my own fault then :shy:
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And for your next challenge, you are close, Photon Torpedoes for when cagers pull out in front of us.
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Hi all just an update,
I've had my Kirky Lights installed for a while now and they been through sunshine, rain, heavy downpours and spray from following other vehicles. Still looking bright, no build up of moisture inside the lens.
All in all they are still working and I am still pleased with them. :thumb:
Only had one day of them not working and that's down to the dodgy geezer who wired them in, oh actually that'll be my own fault then :shy:
Cheers for the update Paul . Glad to hear all is well with the lights. I've had a couple of failures with the older models but have discovered that this is due to vibration and have changed the construction method to overcome this. Don't worry if you have a failure though , all lights are still covered by warranty . :thumb:
Regards, Jok.
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(http://imageshack.com/a/img844/986/cc9g.jpg)
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Tit.
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Forgot the 'S' are best. :shy:
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I love the look of those,mmmmmmm me thinks I should order a set. Is there a link?
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I love the look of those,mmmmmmm me thinks I should order a set. Is there a link?
I have fitted Fronts, rears and brakes myself and can thoroughly recommend them.
Just PM kirky1298 and he will sort you out with sets and any questions that need answering
follow this to the For Sale section
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=22267 (http://www.v-strom.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=22267)
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Thanks
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I like your ruler :thumb:
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I like your ruler :thumb:
Only 6 inches though ...... Must be cold in Scotland :neen:
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My MK3 I think are still working and are very visible by other road users.
I used P 22mm clips(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/21/ga9emanu.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/21/3uja6e5e.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/21/yta9ahyd.jpg)
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I know its here somewhere but I cannot find it
Is there a Diagram or a Step by Step Tuetorial for total eleccy numtys like me for fitting Kirkeys lights
Cheers
Ernie
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I found out yesterday that I can leave them on all day while I am in the office and they have little effect on my ability to start the bike... not planning on making a regular thing of testing that though!
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Parking lights ????? :shrug:
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Well gents, the 3 month testing period is now up.
It would be great if you could send feedback , oh , and the agreed payment of £15 or return the lights to me.
I'll P.M all beta testers with payment or return details.
Thank you all very much for your help with these lights. Regards, Jok. :thumb:
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I was looking at them on the bike last night thinking that it must be about time we paid you for them Jok...
Very happy to keep them: even as the bigger mk2's, they are a well made piece of kit that does make a significant difference to the otherwise marginal visibility of Katie. Yup feckin' big & orange & still nobody seemed to notice us... :crazy:
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Front LED's arrived this morning (first class post and first class service :thumb: ) along with my free LED side lights :ty:
I'll see if I can get them fitted tomorrow and post up some pics
Geordie
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A wee (see what I did there jok?) dram (and again) of feed back on these wonderful lights. Very easy to fit, very well made and designed. They have stood the rigors of my riding through rain, hail, snow and pestilence (flies).
They even did a trackday.
In short, really rather good and a credit to Jok who I understand is on the next series of Dragons Den.
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ust how bright can you legally go ?
The latest installment incorporates 3 x CREE smd's mounted in a heatsink with driver etc. The lights are 53mm diameter by approx 50mm deep. The Lens produces a 60 degree beam pattern of super bright 7000k light .
They are seriously IN YOUR FACE bright !!
I'm currently conducting bench testing, primarily for heat build up, if this is successfull I'll move on to waterproof & vibration testing which should take me a couple of weeks.
All being well, These lights will retail at around £35 posted per set.
I want really bright running lights as most of my driving is done in daylight are you making these brighter ones yet
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I need replacement lights the ones Andy (Fat Rat) put on the Tigger are sealed units and now need replacing because some of the bulbs have gone.. Have these lights now got brackets for mounting??