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pichulec · « **Reply #40 on:** November 02, 2023, 20:22:33 »

You starting to convincing me out of Tiger. Any advice for Adventure bike with upright position, with shaft, 100hp or more, as light as possible (about 200kg would be nice), not top heavy, not super mega expensive (up to 10k for used one), with cruise control and reliable? Is something like that exist? Want something else than vstrom. On road only, I don't do terrain.

How is Tiger 900 with vibration?

Sage · « **Reply #41 on:** November 02, 2023, 21:05:23 »

A Super Tenere fits most on your list, the quoted weight is high but Yamaha went to great lengths to keep it low down.
I'm only around 72kg, mid 60's and can pick it up without too much stress. I practiced on grass. Mine as been totally reliable, is all day comfey and the seat height is not too high. They are also extremely good value as everyone overlooks them.

kwackboy · « **Reply #42 on:** November 02, 2023, 21:43:23 »

You won't find a shaft driven adventure bike under 200kg ..

10k is a good budget , try a used BMW 1200gs or GSA.
Earlier models have better gearboxes..

pichulec · « **Reply #43 on:** November 02, 2023, 22:43:58 »

I heard that BMW shafts are destroying themselves into pieces... OK, lets forget about weight, any other options with shaft?

nigel s · « **Reply #44 on:** November 03, 2023, 04:24:48 »

Forget shafts,that is what scottoilers are for,and the market opens up, a Tracer900/9/gt would fit the bill.
If you test ride one just try not to knock too many points off for the terrible screen that will get replaced very quickly.

pichulec · « **Reply #45 on:** November 03, 2023, 05:39:13 »

See, I don't want to buy the bike and start replacing things like in the old one.

nigel s · « **Reply #46 on:** November 03, 2023, 05:51:39 »

You say that now.....

Ho Hum

kwackboy · « **Reply #47 on:** November 03, 2023, 06:38:56 »

Quote from: pichulec on November 02, 2023, 22:43:58

I heard that BMW shafts are destroying themselves into pieces.

Yes , there's lots of stories of exploding BMW shafts, the GS is the most popular adventure bike on the road and their shaft design is used on many models.
So yes , you are going to hear all the bad news from owners complaining their shaft drive has given up thinking they're maintenance free, they're not .

A fluid change and an inspection every 10k or so will see it last the life of the Bike.

In all the years I've worked on bikes I've changed one bevel on a BMW due to bad maintenance and only ever heard of two complete shafts giving up, again , bad maintenance.

No .. I'm not working for BMW ....

Rixington43 · « **Reply #48 on:** November 03, 2023, 08:48:38 »

BMW did also finally cop to there being a design flaw with the shaft or rather with the lack of drainage for the housing. There is a recall option to have the shaft housing drilled and a flapper seal added (which is present from the factory on the 1250 I believe), my mate had it done on his 1200LC last year and BMW replaced the shaft at the same time for free. Other than that he's had very few issues.
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/news/2022/august/BMW-driveshaft-service-check

The big Tigger does tick off most of your list though if shaft drive is desired. I wouldn't discount it if you liked it, maybe just get another test ride from elsewhere and cast a more critical eye based on what others have said. I think 'feel' and 'character' can be very personal things. I have a mate who will only ride screaming inline 4s which I find about as charming as a fridge freezer and the high end revs make the enamel on my teeth itch. Equally he thinks air cooled American twins belong with truck diesels but I'd have one in a heart beat.

Dark-Strom · « **Reply #49 on:** November 03, 2023, 10:24:57 »

Hi P, I wouldn't buy Triumph due to continual build issues over the years that they appear to dismiss and have not owned.
Whilst Honda are not my favourite or most disliked brand, there's the VFR800X (100bhp) or the heavier 1200 if you want shaft drive.

Shaft wise there's the pretty-much unburstable FJR1300, further a field the Moto Guzzi Stellvio 1200 or the new V100 Mandelo 1000 to name a few?

Good luck, bike shopping is fun, bank balance permitting 😊

mr_diver · « **Reply #50 on:** November 03, 2023, 11:52:23 »

Wasn't that Guzzi do the V85TT that was 850cc and shaft drive?

Some do say it's heavy and slow though iirc.

Having owned a shaft drive, that I quickly gave up for the Strom, - chains are trusted and wear is visible - shafts hide wear and when they go, it's a workshop job.

porter · « **Reply #51 on:** November 03, 2023, 17:06:28 »

Shaft drive is great but it does limit your choice somewhat. Only Japanese bikes are the Yam super 10 or the Honda vfr1200x that I know of which leaves you in Euro bike land. I'm sure there great now as it's been about 15 years from I owned any.
I bought a new Gs in 07 I think, universal joint broke in the shaft at 7k miles, was replaced with a KTM990 which the alternator nut fell off and wrecked the crank, a Triumph tiger 1050 replaced that, it liked oil and started dropping out of 3rd gear everytime you rev'd it over 5k. See a pattern

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My strom may be boring but it just goes and asks for very little.
Anyway good to see you're thinking about a bike again, I know all too well how hard they are to stay away from.

vstroman · « **Reply #52 on:** November 03, 2023, 19:40:48 »

How do the spokes hold up on the Yamaha Super tenere? I have not read any reports on them giving much trouble.
A good tourer with shaft drive that's well balanced despite it being heavy on the scales.

Sage · « **Reply #53 on:** November 03, 2023, 22:57:00 »

The spokes on my S10 have so far been good at 30k miles, no adjustments needed and no rust but they are tarnished in places. However, I don't use the bike over winter, the Wee does that duty. Also being tubeless is great for piece of mind when longer trips.

pichulec · « **Reply #54 on:** November 04, 2023, 08:40:10 »

Now I don't know what I want again. Thanks for help hahahaha.

jabmotorsport · « **Reply #55 on:** November 04, 2023, 09:00:59 »

Tiger 12

they handle really well considering what a lump they are. If you want the full Ewan and Charlie edition the Rally Explorer/GT Explorer comes with a 30L fuel tank

They are a bit tall though

TLPower · « **Reply #56 on:** November 04, 2023, 15:19:08 »

No mention of the broken S10 spoke Josh?

That ride I had on your S10 all those years ago convinced me the end was nigh for the Nail, the suspension on the Yamaha was so composed compared even to the Wilburs on the Cagiva.

GLWTS of the Strom.

Tomfum · « **Reply #57 on:** November 06, 2023, 09:21:48 »

I have had two yamaha 1200 tenere , both brand new both of them had spoke problems . No matter how I looked after them ( never rode in salt & very little rain use ) they went all cruddy not rusty but like a crust on them . I put it down to poor quality.

mr_diver · « **Reply #58 on:** November 06, 2023, 10:36:26 »

The problem with spokes is the stainless steel can't be high grade stainless as it's too brittle and prone to snapping.
Seems they went a step too far considering the weight of the 1200 Tenere and the fact it's going to be heavily loaded.

They should go back to the 80's and 90's when the spokes were lower grade stainless and they gel coated them - but that's too expensive!

pichulec · « **Reply #59 on:** November 06, 2023, 19:38:15 »

OK, Tenere is out due to spokes. Don't want to spoke wheels anyway, cast only as I will not be doing any terrain riding. Road only. Next proposition please :D