Brockett, I think maybe you expected too much from a product meant to be used on wheels, tank, screen and most other painted or chrome parts of your bike. To expect the same product to act like Jizer or Gunk and clean caked on grease, oil and muck from the chain is (in my view) expecting a little too much.

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I only use Muck off when I want to clean the muck and ACF 50 off my bike to polish it and see it sparkle then coat it in ACF50 again. It all seems a bit pointless really. I clean the chain and mess it makes with white spirit, cheap as chips.
I do realise though, my bike will be dirty after a few miles of cleaning it and wish I had one to keep as garage clean as well as the one I ride. You are a very lucky fellow (4 bikes I think) and I am envious.
