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Offline mrp192

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Re: Oil drain bolt crush washer.
« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2016, 11:46:50 »
Thanks, now found another entry about this so planning on leaving early and taking a lap of the Norwich inner ring road to get the engine properly warmed up before doing my trip.
I think I need to worry less and ride more! :dl_hyperhysteria:

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Re: Oil drain bolt crush washer.
« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2016, 14:00:14 »
The genuine Suzuki oil filter spec is for two full turns after contact of the O-ring to the engine. The OEM filter has a soft, large cross section O-ring. All other brands will specify somewhere between hand tight to one turn. Check the manufacturer's spec.

I have read this to, but don't you think its a bit over the top, I don't think I could get 2 full turns on the filter with out damage.
all the filters I have changed car, bike etc I have only ever done hand tight, how do you do your filter? and why does Suzuki say 2 turns, but Hello, I know nowt.
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Re: Oil drain bolt crush washer.
« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2016, 15:10:36 »
The Suzuki filter has a different O-ring from any other filter I've ever seen and it gets compressed from round in cross section to flat when it is installed. Using the tool available from Suzuki or any oil filter tool of the proper size, it's easy to get 2 turns from initial contact. People have had success with less than two turns but I would be uneasy with less than the recommendation as the filter seal is so different. The most important thing it never to use 2 turns on any other filter as their seals are harder, smaller in cross section and usually flat to begin with though the Purolator ML16818 has a smaller, harder round cross section O-ring.

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Re: Oil drain bolt crush washer.
« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2016, 22:33:48 »
good point, I did notice the O ring but I only did it up hand tight [very] I will have a good look at it, I have had no drips etc yet, but it is food for thought.
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Re: Oil drain bolt crush washer.
« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2016, 23:15:38 »
Following the advice on here I bought the tool from eBay for about £7 and marked the TDC as the o ring touched the crankcase. It then did turn just under two turns until my torque wrench indicated the 20 Nm specified so the advice is about right.

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Re: Oil drain bolt crush washer.
« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2016, 00:42:43 »
Just an additional note, whenever installing a filter or any o-ring or rubber seal for that matter, lubricate the seal before installing it.
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Re: Oil drain bolt crush washer.
« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2016, 09:13:05 »
The last  'spin on' filter I bought/installed was a HiFlo brand and for my Hornet. I was pleasantly surprised to see it was pre-lubricated. It's has a clear plastic cover ring over the seal and was oily underneath. :)


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Re: Oil drain bolt crush washer.
« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2016, 10:28:36 »
Quick question: what is the correct size of washer for a Glee? Can't seem to find it listed anywhere. Ta!

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Re: Oil drain bolt crush washer.
« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2016, 12:15:50 »
12mm hole.
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Re: Oil drain bolt crush washer.
« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2016, 12:34:24 »
Take your plug to your nearest hydraulic hose supplier and ask for a "Dowty seal" to fit it.Peanuts to buy and they last for loads of oil changes.
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Re: Oil drain bolt crush washer.
« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2016, 16:51:10 »
Thanks! Do I need a 17mm outer or 16.5mm? And should it be the flat type or the ring type?

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Re: Oil drain bolt crush washer.
« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2016, 00:02:43 »
It's a metal washer with a built in seal,get the size that only just clears the threads and it will self centre when you tighten the drain plug.
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Re: Oil drain bolt crush washer.
« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2016, 16:20:10 »
is the seal in the dowty OK with heat?
from memory arnt they thick? or can you now get slimer ones?

sorry I'm an old git, ain't used dowty's for years and years and then on Hydraulics.
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Re: Oil drain bolt crush washer.
« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2016, 17:39:25 »
Should be fine with engine oil heat, as you say they are used on hydraulics which can run similar temps.
Having said that the stock alloy ones are fine for multiple uses

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Re: Oil drain bolt crush washer.
« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2016, 10:48:38 »
I'd rather use a solid copper or aluminium crush washer instead of a Dowty seal which is designed for a slightly different application.

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Re: Oil drain bolt crush washer.
« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2016, 13:30:01 »
A dowty would be fine, funnily enough I've jist done the first service on a works van which had a dowty seal on the sump plug from the factory.